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Sports Bloggers in the Press Box

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by SMJKeith, May 17, 2007.

  1. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member


    Your Huckleberry -- Are you going to be baconboy today or Your Huckleberry? Or are you going to have another conversation with yourself?

    Just wondering.
     
  2. baconboy

    baconboy New Member

    First: I don't know ... I'd ask the paper.

    I suppose they could fire me if they wanted. That's their decision. But they could also look at me as a prime revenue opportunity if they wanted, too. Again, their decision.

    Second: I couldn't disagree more strenuously with Zagoshe's use of the term "stealing" to describe what I'm doing. Stealing, in case you don't know, is widely considered a crime. It would be stealing if I went into the company coffers and walked out with a pile of cash.

    Fighting for advertising dollars is a legitimate business practice and the way our industry operates.
     
  3. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Um, baconboy -- look again, I was quoting your alter ego who accussed you of stealing
     
  4. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    As I pointed out in the Mirtle case, his blog is independent of the Globe & Mail's but he actually drives traffic to his employer's website.

    Huck's accusation of "stealing advertising" is laughable. He doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
     
  5. Reel E Reel

    Reel E Reel Member

    Really? He shouldn't be in the press box because his ulitmate goal is to represent a profitable business?

    Curious...ultimately, why does your paper employ you?
     
  6. lono

    lono Active Member

    Let's not forget he had the matching Tony Stewart t-shirt and mini-beverage cooler.
     
  7. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    I don't care if your are a blogger or a beat writer, just don't get in my way when I'm trying to get Chipper Jones' autograph!
     
  8. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    OK, SportsBruh, oops, I mean Reel E Reel, let me make it really simple for you....

    There are a lot of good businessmen in this country. There are a lot of guys who run good, solid media businesses. There are a lot of people who have made a lot of money in marketing for media-type websites and/or advertising businesses and also in web-based businesses. Some, even provide some or most of the creative content of said websites as well. That's all well and good and I am happy for them -- but that doesn't change the fact that none of them belong in the press box and neither does a guy who is "marketing concepts" and "selling advertising" for his website.

    Sorry, just keeping it real, y'all......
     
  9. Haven't gone through the entire thread, so sorry if this is a D_B, but I saw this on Boing Boing this morning, and thought it was relevant to the conversation:

    Blogger-friendly baseball: Crystal Larsen wants to manage sporting venues when she graduates, and her work placement this year was with Major League Baseball. For my class, she produced a pitch to MLB for bringing bloggers into the games as credentialled press and encouraging them to disseminate accounts of the games -- something that MLB currently treats as a threat to be prevented.
     
  10. Why dont you have a moderator check the ISP numbers and determine whether we are the same person? Maybe then you'll realize I'm not him. And it looks like you guys pissed him off enough that he's gone now. That's too bad because he was pretty reasonable. It always seems to amaze me how some people in the media think that they are automatically greater than others without ever taking the time to listen to what they have to say. Open your ears little man, you might learn something from someone else if you listened.
     
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    How would you know he is gone if you are not him?

    And given that you are someone who claims to be an expert in blogging -- which by extension would mean you have an idea about the internet -- I'm going to assume your talk of "ISP numbers" is merely a typo.....
     
  12. Reel E Reel

    Reel E Reel Member

    And what are you doing in the press box?

    Trying to get information that will see print in a media outlet. In an effort to attract readers. To gain circulation numbers. To entice companies to spend advertising and marketing dollars.

    Describe yourself anyway you want.

    The bottomline is the only difference between the people (like baconboy) that you describe and yourself...is that you are a tool used by the people that make the real money. The others stand to make the real money themselves.

    You are one bitter little man.
     
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