Sports reporter to undergo sex change

At six years of age, the gender indoctrination is quite thorough. If it smacks of such, I strongly suggest you look at the underlying cause for it.

And of *course* its a state of mind. Gender *is* a state of mind. An inborn, irreversible one that has occurred for as long as there have been people. Which you would know if you had taken the time to research the issue.

 

I haven't wasted any of anyone else's money.

I figured out who I was, and what I was a long time ago.

The problem is the rest of the world didn't agree with me. So I'm fixing that disconnect.

 

I believe I've heard of this stern look, and it is indeed, terrible to behold.

 

Dysonance -- Agreed, which is why you should have went to a counselor when you were young and had he-she talk you through your obviously wrong-headed belief that you were a female given your plumbing.

 

At more complex examples, obviously.

Simple question: what information would make you change your mind about the subject of transsexuals?

 

What a good Christian you are.

Clearly, dyssonance spent time and figured out who she is and took steps to do what she needed to do. Good for her.

It doesn't affect you, other than the thought of a guy having surgery to become a woman and vice-versa gives you the heebie-jeebies. Well, that's your problem. Grow up and accept people for who and what they are.

 

Dyssonance -- What are talking about when you say "change my mind"?

I'm not a bigot, I don't hate trans-inter-she-he whatever the term is for your type and when I said freak, it was for lack of a better term for people who live a lifestyle that I would consider to be on the fringes of mainstream society.

I think you have every right to live as you wish, I hope you indeed have found peace, but I draw the line when it comes to this need by some to creating and sanctioning new categories of people all the time and do so based on some very flimsy research.

 

But I did.

Did you miss the part about how its *required*?

Did you miss the part about how there is a specific Standard of Care for this? That it requires therapy and examination? Why do you think she went to the trouble to mention that she went through it.

Just to *start* the process you have to be diagnosed. And then you have to jump through hopp aafter hop and line the posckets of mental health professionals with more money until they say "ok, here's the first step" and send you off with a letter to an endo.

Then, joy of joys, you finally start to feel great and happy and you still go through the same therapy and examinations and endless hours of having to deal with all the little thngs that make up a life.

Just so you can start living as the target Gender for a year. At least. In some locations its 2 or more.

Before surgery.

And you are required to interact within your gender role -- and you wanna talk about sexism? Deal with some of the therapists and psychologists and social workers out there, who charge you money for it.

Think about going out on a date for a second. You can get killed after surgery. How bad do you think it might be *before*?

So you live in this precarious halfway positon for one year or more and keep going to therapy until the end of it, and then you have to pay yet more money to a *different* one altogether just so you can get two letters so that you can finally get your surgery done.

If you have the money. In the United States, the midrange, hardly known folks doing it run about 15K for vaginoplasty and anohter 4K for labiaplasty. That's not counting any BA you might need of facial stuff.

Do you understand that this really is a *medical* issue? That the AMA and APA and AAP identify it as such? That the younger it can be attended to the better it is for the health of the individual and their ability to live a productive life?

So I've been there.

Now what?

 

It can be hard for folks who take their sex and gender identity for granted to understand.

But maybe some analogies might be useful. How do you know you're right-handed or left-handed? (Used to be that left-handedness was literally beaten out of people because no "normal" person could possibly be left-handed.) How do you know whether you're attracted to men or women (or both)?

In both cases, you just know. For trans folks, it's not different. Dissonance can take place at multiple level:
- the physical body you're in
- your gender self-identity (i.e. how you see your own gender in all the non-physical characteristics
- social gender identity (i.e. how you're treated by others based on your perceived gender)

BTW, for those who think trans folks should just feel free to express their gender regardless of their bodies, I assume then that you're fully accepting of masculine women and feminine men, yes?

 

The idea of masculine women is fully accepted in some circles.

It is called the WNBA.

 

I didn't say you were a bigot. You were looking for a word, so I provided it.

The term is transsexual, and it was coined so that you wouldn't have to use the word freak and could be specific about what type of person you were talking about. If you don't like the word (and, I don't -- its an ugly looking word, and its readily misunderstood by the uninformed), then use the abbreviation TS.

Or, if you just want to be mean and spiteful, you can always use the pejorative "trannie".

What I mean is "change your mind" is what would it take for you te realize that this isn't something someone wants? What would it take fo you to realize that its a valid medical condition that's been recognized for over 30 years, and that someone can be fired, or kicked out of their home, or murdered, or denied the right to establish a family, or to be able to walk trhough life without being validated as a person by the condition of their genitals that nobody sees in the first place?

In short, what would it take for you to see them as human beings who have a medical problem like, say, Lou Gherig's disease, and stop denying them their validity as people?

 

Dysonance -- All of that is a nice story, but if god made you a man, then you are a man and for you to try and change that because you are having feminine feelings and urges is on you.

Why not just live as a man and get the help you need to embrace the fact that you are a man?

I mean, you can teach a natural lefty to bat righty, to use someone else's example.