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Sports reporter to undergo sex change

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Mr. X, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    dysonnace,

    There has been nothing inappropriate about your posts.

    zagoshe,

    If you want to critique the coverage, fine. But this being the journalism thread, there will be no more commentary about so-called "deviant" lifestyles. You are entitled to disagree with that way of living. But you aren't going to smear it any more on here.
     
  2. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Here is the thing Dysonance -- I don't hate transgenders or anyone else. What I don't like is the way that people treat certain stories with kid gloves that they wouldn't normally wear just because they think it is politically correct or the right thing to do.
     
  3. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Would a simple line saying something along the lines of "My wife's not taking this real well" have helped the COLUMN? Yes. Should it have been included? Yes.

    But I'm guessing there will be plenty of time for that.
     
  4. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Okay, that's just silly. Come on.
     
  5. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Mustard -- Thanks for proving my point --- All of those were Disney-owned ESPN stations and he was put out on all of those -- and I even was privy to a memo to ESPN radio stations from the corporate brass about how to handle the story, when to release the story and how to promo it on the air. After ESPN got its bang for its buck, then he was permitted to go out and do the other circuits.
     
  6. dyssonance

    dyssonance Member

    but you have been rude. You just don't realize it.

    You've referred to Christine as a he/she -- after we've noted that the propriety is to refer to her as she.

    You've implied and outright avoided admitting that transsexuality is a medical condition, and have made statements that invaldiated my life as a person.

    You've insulted my ability to start and deal with a family.

    You've made various comments which generally indicate that you think of TS as being akin to homosexuality, which is not only rude, but is something that really pisses me off.

    so yes, you've been rude. And I didn't say rude to me. I said *rude*. NOt politically correct -- I don't gve a rats ass about PC. I care about being polite and courteous -- which you haven't been. You've been the opposite: rude.

    You hide behind the phrase PC, despite nothing said in this thread thus far being PC. Except for my single posting, this thread hasn't dealt in language or politics.

    So you think anyone who doesn't fit into the standard heteronormative rule of screwing is a freak. Fine.

    You don't have to be rude about it, though.

    (edited becuase I really need to type slower)
     
  7. beefncheddar

    beefncheddar Guest

    Dude, there's a huge difference between all the media Amaechi did and this story. This story has NO LEGS outside of L.A. and journalism circles right now. NONE.

    ESPN plugged the Amaechi story so relentlessly you literally COULDN'T get away from it. It was EVERYWHERE.

    One of us is wrong. And not just a little wrong -- a WHOLE LOT wrong.
     
  8. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    And you insulted religion -- so is that rude or not? And you called groups like the Family Research Council a hate group? Is that rude or not? Or is labeling a group that might not agree with your lifestyle for spiritual reasons a hate group what we do in polite society?
     
  9. Frank_Ridgeway

    Frank_Ridgeway Well-Known Member

    When writing about anyone's personal life, we make decisions on what to leave out. We weigh the public's right to know against a person's right to privacy. Our goal isn't to satisfy every question every reader might have, it is to answer those questions we think are most important. It is our job to decide that.

    Recently there was a discussion here about a column a sports writer wrote about walking into a bar after having been sober for decades. Now if he had wanted to tell us everything, surely he could have written a book about his experiences with alcohol and how his drinking affected loved ones, but that was not the point of the column. He disclosed what was pertinent.

    Christine was not writing a book, she was writing a narrowly focused column to let longtime readers know what was happening. I think delving into their marriage falls into the category of Too Much Information. Maybe some people have an insatiable desire to look inside their bedroom, but I would feel like a peeping Tom.
     
  10. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    This has no legs outside of LA? Are you nuts?

    Watch how this thing unfolds in the next few weeks.

    I can see it now -- a reality series starring "her"....
     
  11. dyssonance

    dyssonance Member

    There's another major difference: Amechi was gay.

    That puts it in a whole new category of issues, many of which dont affect TS people or are concerned with them.

    And, in all fairness, his whole deal was handled by the HRC as if it was the second coming.
     
  12. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Oh, so now we want to stay out of bedrooms?

    I agree, which is why all of these "coming out" stories, be it by gays or TS people or anyone else, are ridiculous in the first place.
     
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