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State of California is broke

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, May 31, 2012.

  1. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Self managed.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but they're still placing their money with big time investment firms, right?
     
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    A really interesting article here... I'm sure it will cause quite a bit of a debate among the regulars here...

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-malanga-wisconsin-california-bankruptcies-20120717,0,5879241.story
     
  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I assume, but Calpers is in charge of the mix.... perhaps they had a terrible asset allocation.
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    The 1 percent is not unusual -- the S&P 500 finished flat in 2011.

    The 8 percent assumption is the ridiculous part.
     
  6. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Not enough Prop 13 talk.
     
  7. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    That return is for the 12 months ended June 30 - the S&P returned 5.4% during that period.
     
  8. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Are GOP legislators willing to cut pension benefits for firefighters and police officers, because they weren't in Wisconsin?
     
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I don't think that firefighters or police officers are a sacred cow for the minority GOP legislators. 9-11 was a long time ago.
     
  10. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I don't think it will matter because I doubt California would ever elect a governor who would be willing to do what Walker did in Wisconsin.

    Brown has made some cuts, and while that's good, this is a state that needs a complete overhaul, something far more severe than what was done in Wisconsin.

    How do you make something like that happen? I have no idea...
     
  11. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    They were a sacred cow for Walker in 2011. Has the GOP come out for a plan to reduce the pensions of public safety workers?
     
  12. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    According to this apparently nonpartisan site, the GOP recommends reductions for all state workers, none exempted. But I am not an expert in this - does that include those employed by municipalities?

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/California_public_pensions

    Legislators are beholden to whomever sweetens their coffers most.
     
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