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Still think Texas has never executed anyone who was innocent?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by deskslave, May 15, 2012.

  1. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Deserves? No. Still doesn't mean I want the state killing him in my name. I want the state to be better than that.
     
  2. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Please, get your own material. Rants against "angry internet man" were boring years ago.

    I'm not angry about anything, other than criminal assholes with no regard for people's life.

    I asked a simple question - if it is really your belief that we cannot be 100 percent sure that anyone is guilty, then what is the point of having a criminal justice system?

    And again - what percentage of people do you believe who are serving life sentences for violent crimes are guilty? 90 percent? 80 percent?
     
  3. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    But you are OK with the government sanctioning a doctor murdering an innocent baby because it is a choice, correct?
     
  4. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    I can't believe this took until post 104.
     
  5. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    I'll take that as a yes as well as a concession that your stance about "wanting my government to be better than killing GUILTY PEOPLE" is incredible hollow and ridiculous.
     
  6. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Further, Deskslave, I can safely assume that if a bunch of Chinese soldiers with AK-47's invade our country, you will oppose the Marines or Army shooting back at them unless they aim for the legs because, well, you don't want your government killing people in your name....
     
  7. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    And yet if I call him an asshole, I get banned.
     
  8. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Nope.

    They still get to eat three meals a day. They still get to breathe air. They still get to write letters to family and friends. They still get to do drugs, if they so desire.

    Fuck, they still get to lift weights. One of the more ridiculous things about prison. If prisoners need to get out physical energy, put them on a chain gang and let them dig holes.

    Their victims don't get to do that.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Executing them doesn't bring the victims back, either.

    I think you've been steered wrong about life without possibility of parole sentencing and prisoner conditions.

    cpfphila.org/NL1112/NL1112 6.html


    Conditions in prison for LWOP prisoners are not good. In an interview with a lifer in a New York prison recently, the discussion turns to a punishment known as the Box, also known as a “close supervision unit.” No personal belongings are allowed and practically no exercise or human contact. In 2009, the average amount of time spent in the Box by New York prisoners was 112 days. State records show that there were 20 suicides in 2010, double the number in 2009 and the highest since 1978, the first year such records were kept. Some suicides take place in the Box, but most are carried out by men in the general population who are serving very long sentences (Liliana Segura, “The Abuse Inside Our Prisons,” Catholic Worker, March 2011). Last year prisoners at California Pelican Bay Prison went on a hunger strike to protest the practice of isolating some prisoners for more than 22 hours a day. The strike spread until thousands of prisoners were participating. Only when officials agreed to review the use of solitary confinement did the prisoners accept food. Solitary confinement constitutes cruel and unusual punishment—torture—and many think it should be abolished.
     
  10. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    No, you can call me an asshole and I assure you I won't whine and cry and make a federal case about it. Hell, I may just agree with you.

    But that doesn't change the fact that your stance on the death penalty is flawed if you support abortion and more importantly, if you are OK with the military killing people to protect you.....

    It also doesn't change the fact that most people are probably in the same boat I am in that they support the idea of swift, severe punishment which includes the death penalty, but the way it is administered here in this country is currently impractical and flawed.

    Oh I forgot, wanting criminals to be punished is "bloodlust fantasies...."
     
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Why are prisoners put into the "box"
     
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

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