Sucks or overplayed?

Inky_Wretch · Jun 27, 2014

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
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The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
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We have two modern country stations here - both corporate, not local. It's amazing the number of times you can flip from one to the other and hear the exact same song. I know they're working on the same playlist, but it's got to be pretty small given the number of times they overlap the same songs.
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Can people stop with this lazy and incorrect claim? All radio stations (and newpapers) are owned by a corporation or LLC or partnership, or whatever limited liability entity. The legal structure of the company you are referring to is irrelevant. What you mean is either some publicly trade company or a company that is not local. The fact it may be a corporation is meaningless to your criticism.
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Oh for Pete's sake, it's shorthand. And it has nothing to do with ownership but the way it is programmed. Local stations (even those owned by a corporation) have DJs in town; "corporate" stations don't.

Baron Scicluna · Jun 27, 2014

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
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The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
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We have two modern country stations here - both corporate, not local. It's amazing the number of times you can flip from one to the other and hear the exact same song. I know they're working on the same playlist, but it's got to be pretty small given the number of times they overlap the same songs.
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Can people stop with this lazy and incorrect claim? All radio stations (and newpapers) are owned by a corporation or LLC or partnership, or whatever limited liability entity. The legal structure of the company you are referring to is irrelevant. What you mean is either some publicly trade company or a company that is not local. The fact it may be a corporation is meaningless to your criticism.
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What he's referring to as corporate is the national companies like Clear Channel that owns thousands of stations and pretty much monopolizes the airwaves (thanks deregulation) with its same 30 songs over and over. As opposed to,the few Mom and Pop stations that are locally owned, but may or may not mix things up. Tha national companies don't necessarily have to be publicallly traded. It could be one guy owning a whole bunch of stations.

Oh, and Exhibit G: Faith

Exhibit H: Don't You Want Me

albert77 · Jun 27, 2014

"Free Bird!"

BDC99 · Jun 27, 2014

Baron Scicluna said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
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The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
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I don't have a subscription, so I can't read it. Seems like an interesting premise, although I wonder how many times do they get people changing the station because they hear the same stuff on every two hours.
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It's definitely a fine line. I listen to Backspin, the classic hip-hop station on S/XM quite a bit, but I have heard some of the classics ... "Children's Story," "The Message," "Rapper's Delight" ... that I change the station when a lot of them come on. They still play a pretty good mix, but there are a lot of songs I have loved in the past that I don't want to hear so often anymore.

SEC Guy said:

When did the DMB hate start?

A little more than a decade ago he was selling out football stadiums.
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I really don't understand the DMB hate either. Matthews seems like douche, but they are a great band and are excellent live. Not my favorite band, but I don't get the harsh criticism. But I have a similar hate for U2, who it seems everyone else loves. And I have seen them live too. To each his own, I guess.

joe · Jun 27, 2014

U2 is an immediate station change. Bono's self-importance comes through the speakers, and I just want to slap the shit out of him.

Baron Scicluna · Jun 28, 2014

joe said:

U2 is an immediate station change. Bono's self-importance comes through the speakers, and I just want to slap the shit out of him.
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Exhibit I: With Or Without You

Exhibit J: Take Me Home Tonight by Eddie Money

justgladtobehere · Jun 28, 2014

Inky_Wretch said:

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
Click to expand...

The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
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We have two modern country stations here - both corporate, not local. It's amazing the number of times you can flip from one to the other and hear the exact same song. I know they're working on the same playlist, but it's got to be pretty small given the number of times they overlap the same songs.
Click to expand...

Can people stop with this lazy and incorrect claim? All radio stations (and newpapers) are owned by a corporation or LLC or partnership, or whatever limited liability entity. The legal structure of the company you are referring to is irrelevant. What you mean is either some publicly trade company or a company that is not local. The fact it may be a corporation is meaningless to your criticism.
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Oh for Pete's sake, it's shorthand. And it has nothing to do with ownership but the way it is programmed. Local stations (even those owned by a corporation) have DJs in town; "corporate" stations don't.
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It's ignorant. It displays a teenager's view of things. Say "publicly traded company" or "large out of state company."

Inky_Wretch · Jun 28, 2014

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
Click to expand...

The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
Click to expand...

We have two modern country stations here - both corporate, not local. It's amazing the number of times you can flip from one to the other and hear the exact same song. I know they're working on the same playlist, but it's got to be pretty small given the number of times they overlap the same songs.
Click to expand...

Can people stop with this lazy and incorrect claim? All radio stations (and newpapers) are owned by a corporation or LLC or partnership, or whatever limited liability entity. The legal structure of the company you are referring to is irrelevant. What you mean is either some publicly trade company or a company that is not local. The fact it may be a corporation is meaningless to your criticism.
Click to expand...

Oh for Pete's sake, it's shorthand. And it has nothing to do with ownership but the way it is programmed. Local stations (even those owned by a corporation) have DJs in town; "corporate" stations don't.
Click to expand...

It's ignorant. It displays a teenager's view of things. Say "publicly traded company" or "large out of state company."
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No, it's exactly as I described it. People understand what you mean when somebody says "corporate radio" and they know you're talking about programming, not LLCs.

DanOregon · Jun 28, 2014

The switch to PPMs instead of diaries has altered the business dramatically. Now stations format their programming for 10 min. "bites" which is why you get more teasers going into commercials, more topics per hour on a talk stations, more familiar songs and artists no matter what the format.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2012-07-04/music/the-meter-s-running/

justgladtobehere · Jun 28, 2014

Inky_Wretch said:

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

justgladtobehere said:

Inky_Wretch said:

McNuggetsMan said:

Baron Scicluna said:

Someone in radio maybe can answer this for me. I know stations aren't supposed to get paid for playing a certain song, although it does happen. But do stations also have to pay the music label for the rights to play the song, or do the stations just play whatever they like and the label just benefits from the airplay?

Because, for the life of me, I can't figure out why the heck radio stations play the same 30 or 40 songs in rotation hour after hour, especially in this day and age when there is so much more music available.
Click to expand...

The Wall Street Journal had a great article about this a few months ago -- Radio is becoming more repetitive because people want it to be more repetitive. As soon as you hear a song you don't recognize, you are more likely to switch to something else. It's a really interesting article. So radio stations keep playing the same songs over and over again so you don't accidently get exposed to something unfamilar and change the channel.

http://online.wSportsJournalists.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303754404579313150485141672
Click to expand...

We have two modern country stations here - both corporate, not local. It's amazing the number of times you can flip from one to the other and hear the exact same song. I know they're working on the same playlist, but it's got to be pretty small given the number of times they overlap the same songs.
Click to expand...

Can people stop with this lazy and incorrect claim? All radio stations (and newpapers) are owned by a corporation or LLC or partnership, or whatever limited liability entity. The legal structure of the company you are referring to is irrelevant. What you mean is either some publicly trade company or a company that is not local. The fact it may be a corporation is meaningless to your criticism.
Click to expand...

Oh for Pete's sake, it's shorthand. And it has nothing to do with ownership but the way it is programmed. Local stations (even those owned by a corporation) have DJs in town; "corporate" stations don't.
Click to expand...

It's ignorant. It displays a teenager's view of things. Say "publicly traded company" or "large out of state company."
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No, it's exactly as I described it. People understand what you mean when somebody says "corporate radio" and they know you're talking about programming, not LLCs.
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No, it's lazy, incorrect, and borne of ignorance, but keep it up.

BDC99 · Jun 28, 2014

justgladtobehere said:

No, it's lazy, incorrect, and borne of ignorance, but keep it up.
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Jeez, get the stick outta yer ass.

Inky_Wretch · Jun 28, 2014

BDC99 said:

justgladtobehere said:

No, it's lazy, incorrect, and borne of ignorance, but keep it up.
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Jeez, get the stick outta yer ass.
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Perhaps it's actually a rod. Maybe he'll correct you.

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