Super Bowl XLIII Running Thread

So if you were the Steelers, which current QB would you trade him for? I'm going to assume that they are all healthy.

McNabb?
Cassell?
Brady?
Rivers?
Eli?
Peyton?

 

Brady and Peyton.

Junkie, to say that Pennington is as good as Roethlsberger is ridiculous.

 

For the next 3-4 seasons, I agree. Age is a factor, though, but I would still make the deal.

I think Eli, Rivers and Roethlisberger are very close as is Cutler, but I would never trade a guy who won twice unless the talent was obviously in your favor on the deal.

 

Pennington could very well win a Super Bowl with the right team. He's better than a number of QBs who did win them. He's not as valuable as Roethlisberger because of the health deal, but he's an excellent QB.

 

I disagree with excellent, he can't throw a deep out. I don't think he's awful and could win with maybe the 2000 Ravens defense but if would take a defense like that for him to go deep in the playoffs with. There is no way he drives the Steelers 88 yards on that final series and no chance in hell he could make that throw to Holmes.

He managed games well for the Dolphins this year and was completely exposed in the playoffs.

 

Completely exposed in the playoffs = forced into a bad game by a great defense. I've noticed one thing about shallow football analysis. It always comes down to whatever happened in the guy's last loss is what he's always and truly like as a player.

 

I agree with your last line there. There is to much annalysis based on one game, but I think in this instance, it shows to me that because of Penningtons lack of arm strength he would have a tough time beating most good defenses, which you usually will find with teams that make the playoffs.

 

He also had a running game and pass protection, two things Roethlisberger had to do without more often than not. When was the last time you saw Pennington come up big in a playoff game? Oh, that's right. He never has.

 

Look at Pennigton's "body of work" and get back to me. He's had an average at best career. He has no arm, the offense they had in Miami was completly based on the run and the wildcat.

 

Junkie, honestly I don't even dislike Pennington and I hate the Steelers, I honestly don't believe you can go deep in the playoffs with Pennington. I don't think if you got behind he could bring you back. If his teams are in purely passing situations I believe he is fucked. I understnad your argument about Montanna's arm but Pennington's is far, far worse than Montana's.
I can't believe I'm making a pro Steeler argument, I'm going to shower now.

 

Your 24/7 attacks on all things Steelers dampens yours far more.

It's not just conjecture to say the Steelers still win those two Super Bowls with Pennington. It is bias clouding your judgement.

All Pennington does is avoid fucking up too much. He even stops doing that when the real challenges begin. What happened when he had to face the Ravens this year? He buried the Dolphins with turnovers, something Roethlisberger did not do in three meetings with Baltmiore this season.

Two weeks after Pennington melted down against Baltimore in the playoffs, Roethlisberger threw for 255 yards and a touchdown with no interceptions against that same defense despite losing his best receiver in the first quarter and having Limas Sweed drop a long touchdown pass.

 

By the way. I'm still waiting for somebody to take a shot at identifying these two quarterbacks. They are listed with their statistics after their first five seasons.

Quarterback A: 54.5 completion %, 14,508 yards, 85 TD, 77 Int., 6.7 yards per attempt.

Quarterback B: 62.4 completion %, 14,974 yards, 101 TD, 69 Int, 7/9 yards per attempt.

I'm also waiting for Junkie to tell me about a clutch playoff performance by Pennington.