Supreme Court rules in favor of gay marriage

What compromise on gay marriage are you looking for?

 

Like I said, maybe some of you have the wrong friends. I have a pretty diverse group, including everyone from journalists to hardcore rednecks and saw not one single instance of that. Not one. But yes, your latter point is already being discussed above.

 

The Gospel of the New York Times ... Thanks be to Alma

 

Guessing it's more of accepting the other side's opinion on it.

 

Don't tell me what I have a problem with. You don't know me, so you don't know, despite my attempts to explain things in a coherent, understandable, agreeable way.

I don't think it's a big deal that the gay population in my company has an open, free and available-to-everyone outlet for connection, discussion, meeting and anything else they/we all might want to do. But I mentioned it because I thought YOU might think that I'd think it was a big deal, since, I'm fairly sure, you're all thinking I know no homosexuals, care about no homosexuals, and want to know no homosexuals, and can't stand any, when the fact is, I might actually know, care about, work with, be friends with and want to know more of them than you do.

This is not a thing of ignorance or a lack of exposure or knowledge or care. It still doesn't change my view of this ruling.

I wasn't "supporting" the Duggars. My thoughts on the whole situation evolved, and if you read the whole thread, you'd see/know that. I also didn't "dismiss" their failure to protect their daughters. I made allowance for the fact that the situation was difficult, the parents conflicted and likely unsure of what was best to do and how to go about it, for the fact that, you know, the kid was never actually arrested, charged or anything else for a crime, and has, from all indications, moved beyond those years, and so has his family. I posted that I could absolutely see what happened in their house happening, because, you know, I had and know of similar experiences. And, I'll say it for the 10th time, give us some information to discuss about the other non-family victim, and I'll address it.

That is not supporting wrong-doing, or seeing nothing wrong with what went on. That is refusing to condemn outright when I see no reason to do so 14 years later. That is not seeing and thinking everything is black-and-white and just-as-easy/simple-as-that, no matter what or whom is involved, and that is showing more thoughtfulness than 99 percent of the people on this board.

You know, kind of like I've done on this thread.

How's that for correcting inaccuracies in posts?

 

Scoreboard .

 

My Twitter feed is primarily news-based but my FB feed has been full of marriage equality posts, as I imagine many of yours.

I'd say about 75 percent of them were on ME. Out of that 75%, probably another 75% were civil and celebratory with most of those I knew would he opposed who I consider civil and graceful staying silent. That other 25% was very ugly -- a combo of "this country is going to hell" and "our side won. Deal it with, bigoted assholes".

I've mostly been following a sizable chunk of people bragging about how many people they're unfriending today because they're against the SCOTUS ruling.

This puzzles me because it feels like friends are disposable. We all sign up for things quickly but we are also quick to turn on something in 2015 if it's not perfect.

I wonder about the long term effects of this instant unfriending. Will people just live in an echo chamber? Will they make people pass a political litmus test to determine if they're friend worthy?

Let's say you have 600 friends and decide today to unfriend 30 of them. Okay. That's easy.

Let's say these aren't your close friends but perhaps neighbors, former co-workers, perhaps a teacher of your child.

If one of them has a kid with a rare childhood cancer, wouldn't you want to know about it? If that kid died, better to know than see them in a year and ask "so how is Ethan doing?" only to find this out.

If one of them lost a job but was an excellent co-worker, wouldn't you want to know about it and maybe help with a reference so they can find a decent connection to get back to work?

Perhaps that neighbor you unfriended over this would have been able (and happy) to watch your kid if your spouse got in a car crash and that threw your life into logistical hell for a few weeks.

There is a lot to consider when unfriending someone. I just wonder if we are at a point where everyone in our lives has to meet this level where they agree with us on 97.8% of life.

I've never unfriended someone because of political or social issues. Only if they swear too much.

I believe that diversity of thought is a good thing. It's helped me grow on some of these issues as I see how it directly affects others. Part of the reason I think marriage equality gains more support is that people in the middle see couples living their lives with dignity. Shutting out opposing viewpoints also shuts out the ability to truly listen. It leads to more name calling and more division.

 

I haven't even seen even the 25 percent of ugly posts. In fact, I don't think I have seen anything at all on my FB that I would qualify as "ugly." Maybe this is because I learned quite a while ago that Facebook political discussions don't end well and a lot of my friends seem to have done the same. I have seen almost exclusively celebratory pride posts and posts from the religious side of the decision.

 

For people to stop taking things out of context.

I wasn't commenting on gay marriage, I was commenting on the 2012 elections.

 

I'd prefer people say what they mean. The words 2012 elections were nowhere in the post I quoted.

 

Then why were you quoting me when referencing gay marriage?

 

That's what this thread is about.