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Survivor: One World

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by MTM, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I notice I seem to write much longer Survivor posts than anyone else. Sorry. ... The show makes me elaborate for some reason.
     
  2. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    True, but Colton also benefited from having moronic tribe mates who let him run the show for some unfathomable reason. He didn't have anywhere near the social skills of Rob or Coach, he just took Russell's idea of bludgeoning his way to the million and accessorized it with a Rip Taylor feather boa.

    Can only imagine what the people at GLAAD thought watching his over-the-top performance every week: "We've been fighting for decades for THIS?"
     
  3. The only reason Colton had power was that idol. It's amazing that people never seem to try to get the idol out of play. Even if it means costing you someone else to flush it, you have to snuff it out as quick as possible when you find out someone has it. Insane to me that people never try to do that.
     
  4. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    Colton might have been in charge, but he wasn't any good.

    If you're constantly bitching at people, you aren't very good at that game.

    If you're rushing off to vote off people you don't like personally -- to the point of actually volunteering to go to tribal -- you aren't very good at that game.
     
  5. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I agree Russsell's a better comparison, though I liked Russell a lot more. Russell seemed a little more devious as far as strategy is concerned, and he was brash as hell and just as annoyingly confident. Still, I don't remember him being nearly as personally rude about it. I don't remember him treating anyone the way Colton treated Bill or Christina.

    And, as to why people followed him, Russell is again a great example, as is Coach. People seem to have realized they can use an asshole like that as a shield to get to the end, then cast away that shield in the final tribal council and be fairly untouched. Both Russell and Coach guided their alliances all the way to the end of the game, and got second or third place finishes to show for it.
     
  6. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I agree 100 percent with Zeke and Scribe.
     
  7. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    I agree. But, the only people with the power to flush the idol (to this point in the game) were his alliance, and I imagine they kind of viewed his power as their power, at least this far.

    I never understood why they didn't flush it from Coach or Rob the last two seasons as the endgame approached.
     
  8. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    I can't imagine how anyone would view Colton's power as theirs. He's probably the most selfish person I've ever seen on the show.
     
  9. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    He's in your alliance and you're not high on his target list.

    I still think Colton was a good player. I don't even think sending his tribe to tribal council changed that. His alliances spanned the two tribes at that point. Whether or not the men went into the merge with a numbers advantage didn't really matter, because he didn't have any expectation they'd stay together anyway. That's one of the side effects of "One World." All he needed to do was get rid of people who weren't in his group. The sooner the better.
     
  10. We'll have to agree to disagree. To me, if you willingly gave up a group immunity for what was clearly a personal vendetta then you inherently can't be considered a good player.

    He lucked into an idol that put him in a position of power, that's it.
     
  11. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I think there is a difference between a weak player asserting strength and a good player.
    Colton was weak, bad social, bad physical, he just didn't have a lot going for him. He lasted as long as he did more due to the ineptness of his teammates than anything else. His initial alliance had the numbers from the jump - him, Lief, Tarzan, Jonas and Troyzan vs. the four younger guys. They didn't need his idol to be safe.
     
  12. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

    Did you think he was on track to get voted out any time soon? I'm not trying to be a dick ... we obviously just see him in a different light. I don't think there's a currently existing collection of people willing or capable of voting him out.

    Maybe his leaving the game pushed the merge up a week, but the tribes weren't separate long enough for much of a bond to form. Thus, I think allegiances will revert mostly to how they were, with a couple key switches. I think Colton would have been right on top of that, with his group of four or five guys, Alicia and maybe two other women at the core. One reason he would have been fine was because every chance he had (even when he had to make up a chance) he got rid of someone who would have a part of a rival alliance down the road.

    He certainly could have gotten blindsided at some point — that's the fate I was hoping for — but I really don't think he would have lost the numbers.

    I agree he didn't even try at major parts of the game, but the dude was a great manipulator. Go back to the voluntary tribal again: the reason he demanded they go do that was because they were mad at Leif for blabbing. That's why Tarzan was tromping around, all fired up to go. "We have a traitor," he kept saying. "We have to take care of this." So they went and voted out someone else? That's smooth, and considering how quickly Colton got his hooks in so many different people, I don't think it put him or his tightest group in any sort of danger. Getting rid of Bill wasn't a spur of the moment decision. He was a potential rival vote, and the sooner he was gone, the better, no matter what Colton's personal opinion of him was.

    I can't remember a player I hated more fervently than I did Colton, but I really thought the guy was good and poised for a deep run. Barring a massive change of the landscape, I don't know that anyone was in position to prevent it.
     
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