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Take care of yourself

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Johnny_Dangerously, Sep 11, 2003.

  1. Boobie Miles

    Boobie Miles Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Been very impressed reading how much some people here know about this stuff. I've picked up quite a few tips just reading through this thread. Especially good to find out that you are supposed to lift before cardio because that's what I've always done (not for any reason other than my body is more exhausted after I do cardio and I'm able to deal with cardio fatigued better than weightlifting). A friend who usually knows he's talking about said that was the wrong order because you're burning muscle during the cardio workout. I'm hoping you guys are right and he's wrong.

    A lot of the cardio workouts people talk about here include cycling, running or machines in the gym... just curious, many people here get their workouts playing pick-up sports? I can't bring myself to run either outside or on the treadmill, but put me in a competitive atmosphere and I can run for two hours no problem.
     
  2. DisembodiedOwlHead

    DisembodiedOwlHead Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    I ran a 5K this morning in 6-degree weather (wind chill had to be in the negative). Had a decent time for the conditions. My wife actually had a PR because she's had a great winter of training so far. But I'm hoping my knees stop aching by Tuesday or so.
     
  3. DocTalk

    DocTalk Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Winter running is great fun but footing is always a little problem for me. -12F here this morning, made an easy decision for me to miss our group run and stay on the treadmill instead. As I age, the too cold to run bar gets raised to warmer and warmer temperatures.
     
  4. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    I absolutely don't understand why anyone would run in those temperatures, except to say he did (no offense to Mr & Mrs Owl).

    Seems like it would be terrible for your lungs, worse for your skin...you're already burning energy just to stay warm....can you sweat when you're sending all your heat to your muscles?
     
  5. Idaho

    Idaho Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Three inches of fresh powder on the lawn this morning and I have a 100-mile bike ride scheduled for tomorrow. Good thing it's at Zion National Park and not in Park City.
     
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    I've been very bad about the gym lately. Fucking state playoffs holding me back ...

    I need a good ride.
     
  7. imjustagirl2

    imjustagirl2 New Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    I had about a two-week hiatus from exercise, and my muscles are thanking me after my past two workouts with my trainer. Though I ate lots of fruits and veggies and am still down about 2 pounds over that time.

    Total: -12.3 pounds.
     
  8. Idaho

    Idaho Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Nice work.

    I had a checkup with a doctor a couple of weeks ago -- one after the kids went to sleep, that is -- and was saddened by the scale when they took my weight. For the first time ever, I tipped the thing at 200 lbs. I'm hoping it's mostly muscle gain, but my diet hasn't been very stellar, so it's probably a little bit muscle and a little bit love handle.

    At the gym last night I checked again and I'm back down to 197. There's something not good about the 200 pound mark when you've never been there before.
     
  9. Idaho

    Idaho Active Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Because, once again, I know everyone here lives and breathes to get updates on my life ... ::)

    The ride yesterday was awesome. Pretty chilly at the 8:30 a.m. start so I wore a windbreaker and leg warmers in addition to the normal spandex.

    There was a nasty hill with a strong wind blowing down it into our faces on the way out. the hill was about two miles long and the climb was about 1250 total feet in elevation gain. I'm just glad it was in the first half and not on the return.

    The scenery was amazing. Red rock beauty everywhere. Check Zion National Park out sometime if you never have.

    There were about 600 people in the group ride. Some did only the 50 or 65 mile options but most went the full 100.

    The ride back to the starting point was good. More downhill than uphill and an occasional tailwind to help. Still, another two mile, 750 foot climb toward the end which was by far the most difficult part of the entire thing for me. I struggled there because I was simply tired after logging 80-85 miles already.

    Other than some very tired legs and throbbing quads, I really didn't have any problems for my first century. I feel happy about it.

    Total time was about 6:45 on the course. My ass HURT!

    I drove down and stayed the night before with a friend. The guy is a freak. He's in training for the Ironman Tri and he beat me by about 30-45 minutes on the bike ride. When he finished, he put the bike away and jogged back up the course until he found me three miles from the finish. Then he jogged back to the finish line and kept jogging while I stretched, put the bike away and rehydrated. He probably jogged a good 4-5 miles in addition to the 100 mile bike ride. The crazy thing is, he's a vegan. Not that that is crazy, but it creates some interesting diet habits for him to maintain 15-20 hours per week of hard cardio workouts. He's ripped but still eats at least 4,000 calories per day.

    That is all.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    1) Weights before cardio makes sense for most people because it maximizes their ability to build lean muscle. If you exhaust yourself with cardio first, you may actually lose lean muscle and lack the strength needed to lift. That said, it isn't 100 percent cut and dried, even though for most people it does make sense to do it that way. As with everything, it depends on your goals. There is one positive to doing cardio before weight training: It's called EPOC (Excess Postexercise Oxygen Consumption). A half hour to an hour of cardio before lifting will make you burn more total calories from the workout. So if you are trying to lose a ton of weight, at least temporarily, cardio first can make some sense. The thing is, in the long run, most agree that the greater amounts lean muscle you build from doing weights first does more for your overall health and metabolism than the benefit of just burning off a zillion calories. So it is right for most people.

    2) Pick-up sports are awesome. I am down to just playing basketball just once a week, unfortunately, but three hours of running a full-court college gym balling is as good a cardio workout as I get running.

    I'm with you, Doc. I HATE the cold. I don't understand people who run in it. I love running outdoors when it is warm, but I have to keep it confined mostly to a treadmill, because I one leg has had a stress fracture and the other leg was close, and the treadmill is just easier on them than the pavement. Even so, I refuse to run in the cold. It's just not enjoyable, even if I didn't have an asthma problem that makes me break down in coughing fits when I exercise in the cold.
     
  11. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    I just came back from the CRASH-B Indoor Rowing championships. As I thought, I finished dead last in my age group with a 2,000 meter time of 9:19.2.
    Oddly enough, that was a good 1:40 faster than my best time on the machine I trained on at my gym.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Take care of yourself (LiveSTRONG)

    Small, that's awesome! I have always wondered what it would be like to do one of those. I row for endurance, and I usually only row twice a week now instead of the five and even six days a week I was doing a few years ago. When I couldn't use my legs, rowing was a godsend. I'm really curious about the settings people at the CRASH-B were using. I row for a half hour and I experiment with the flywheel between 2 and 4. I have found that I get my best distances right around a 3 resistance. What resistance were the majority of the better competitors using, particularly the lightweights?

    I concentrate mostly on my 500 meter splits while I am rowing. I keep trying bring my average down the whole time. When I know I have 10 minutes to go, I slowly start to spend everything I have left and I can guestimate how far I have gone from my average 500 meter time. As I exhaust what's left in the tank, I bring the average down a tenth of a second with every few pulls and keep trying to make a new personal best. I'm always soaked when I am done. But I never look at my actual total distance until I am completely done. I find that a distance for a set time that I am always trying to best to be the kind of thing that motivates me. Looking after I am done and seeing a new personal best, is the most awesome feeling.

    I don't log my workouts anymore, but I am registered at the Concept 2 website. Have you done that? I feel a bit geeky about this, but I made the million meter club, and had close to three million meters logged when I stopped keeping track. They send you a nice little package with a T-shirt when you hit a mil. It's fun. I highly recommend starting to log your meters if you want a nice motivational tool all in one place.
     
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