Tebow to appear in Focus on the Family commercial during SB XLIV

You've always been a reasonable respondant. Have never looked to bust your balls,
and aren't starting, now.

But for "Men" . . . individually, or as a group . . . to think they hold any preemptory
trump card to play in this debate, is hysterical.

21st century, boys. Get with it.

 

Not to be a jerk, but you haven't answered the question. Without explaining why, you seem to think it's obvious that women's opinion is to be valued because of their self-interest. I think that's faulty logic. Would you let 12 members of a victim's family serve on a criminal jury? If Tim Tebow believes that life begins at conception, that's a philosophically defensible position. How does being a woman alter the math?

 

If I can find one woman who believes that life begins at conception, does that mean every man is obligated to stop disagreeing with her? And if I can find one woman who doesn't, every man is obligated to stop disagreeing with that too?

Because we could end this debate real fast and never have to talk about it again.

 

I'm just trying to point out that the basis for making laws shouldn't be determined by just the people affected by the laws.

We come together as a society to make laws. Women have no right to be the sole determiners of abortion laws.

Bankers don't get to draw up banking laws (or at least they shouldn't be able to). Women don't get to (solely) write abortion laws.

 

My gut reaction to abortion has always been that we don't get to make the call on who lives and who dies when it comes to innocents. That's reserved for the Man upstairs. I also know that nature decided the female of our species bears the offspring, which isn't my fault. Somehow, I sense some feminists resent that bit of biology, and are never sure who to blame.
However, I will never be pregnant, so I can't get inside those shoes. That's why I'm grudgingly pro-choice. However, pro-choice also means the choice to have the baby. I get the impression that a lot of feminists want pro-choice to be their choice -- have the abortion.
Wish I knew the answer. Bottom line is that I'm not going to tell women what they can and can't do. I can't even get my teen-aged daughter to clean her room (unless I refuse to hand over the car keys ... that usually works).

 

Tim Tebow can believe anything he wants. If he decides that what he believes is what I have to live
by, he can take a long walk off a short pier.

Shit, the kid's barely lived. He's got much to learn.

 

Somehow, I think Tebow knows what he's doing: aligning himself with the hard right to kick a future political career into gear (as Craig James has done with his Texas Senate bid).
I remember reading about a similar incident with Mark Bavaro a number of years back in which he produced a pro-life film (while he was still playing) that used some footage of SBXXI, including some sideline closeups of Giants teammates. Apparently, a number of them were pissed off, believing that use of the closeups implied they shared Bavaro's views on abortion when they either were pro-choice, didn't take a strong view either way, or preferred to keep their views to themselves.
Speak your piece, Timmy, but remember: Reggie White 'aint walkin' through that locker room door.

 

But he doesn't believe that how you want to live should include the right to end a life.

I just fail to understand how being a 22-year-old male virgin undermines his credibility in any way whatsoever.

I'm not trying to be obtuse or passive-aggressive.

 

Mark Chmura was on the same pathway in Wisconsin before he got mixed up with a teenage girl in a hot tub. He made a big deal about not shaking Clinton's hand when the Packers went to the White House because he was such a moral guy.

If that's the way Tebow wants to roll, I hope for his sake there aren't any skeletons in his closet.

 

Tim Tebow can have a 30-man sex tape come out and it does nothing to undermine his abortion view.

 

Bottom line here remains the same . . . the Roves of the world are THRILLED R vs. W
remains in effect. Just another cape to wave at the bulls . . .

 

Agreed. Similar to Palin's fake righteous indignation at her treatment by the "liberal elite media."