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Tebow to appear in Focus on the Family commercial during SB XLIV

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Herbert Anchovy, Jan 16, 2010.

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  1. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    The absolute best thing that has been written on this subject to date. I'm sure feminists will demand that Sally turn in her gender membership card, but as she puts it, these shrill groups have out-lived their usefulness.

    My favorite part of the column:

    "If the pro-choice stance is so precarious that a story about someone who chose to carry a risky pregnancy to term undermines it, then CBS is not the problem. Tebow's ad, by the way, never mentions abortion; like the player himself, it's apparently soft-spoken. It simply has the theme "Celebrate Family, Celebrate Life." This is what NOW has labeled "extraordinarily offensive and demeaning." But if there is any demeaning here, it's coming from NOW, via the suggestion that these aren't real questions, and that we as a Super Bowl audience are too stupid or too disinterested to handle them on game day."
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    man, that column is a winner:
    Tebow's 30-second ad hasn't even run yet, but it already has provoked "The National Organization for Women Who Only Think Like Us" to reveal something important about themselves: They aren't actually "pro-choice" so much as they are pro-abortion.
     
  3. Hondo - The main problem, to me, is that the NFL has gotten now into the business of making content judgments on politically charged ads when determining whether they should run or not. As a private entity, so is their right, but people should know that they are making judgments based on, apparently, their own political beliefs as a league. Again, that's their right. But it should be shouted from the mountaintops that the NFL has decided to get into the political activism business using its biggest event as a staging area.

    Peyton's Place - Hondo is correct. Nothing to see here. The doctor clearly could have made the circumstances obvious to the Tebows, who are not stupid people and would have understood that they could go back to America and get the abortion. They aren't lying, and every organization or activist trying to latch onto some minute, easily explainable detail to paint them as liars to undermine the story and also makes them looks very, very small to me. It's demonizing, pure and simple, and it's pathetic.
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Not everyone in the Phillipines has that option. And that's the point.
     
  5. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    This is EXACTLY the kind of thing that would be targeted if abortion ever were made illegal in one or more U.S. states. It would be illegal to provide any advice that abortion might be the way to go, whether that abortion were legally available elsewhere or not.
     
  6. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    But they weren't Phillipine citizens anyway. They're Americans.
    And it's moot because Pam Tebow didn't have an abortion.
    Sally Jenkins column was right on about one key point: If NOW and whoever is on their side is so threatened by someone on the other side of an issue getting 30 seconds of air time, their cause is a lot more trouble than they think.
     
  7. Which has what to do with if the Tebows are "lying" or not?

    There's no point to that meme other than to assassinate their character to undermine their message.
     
  8. fishhack2009

    fishhack2009 Active Member

    Waylon: If they made up or embellished a story to advance a political agenda, then yeah, their character should be questioned.
     
  9. It's "gotcha" propagandizing that proves absolutely nothing. Zilch. People need to move on from the "Tebows are lying, I have proof!" argument. It's a non-starter.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    NOW feels threatened because Pam Tebow is talking about making a choice.

    A choice that, if the people sponsoring the ad had their way, would not even be able to be considered.

    Good for Pam Tebow to have made a choice to have a baby. And good for her that the baby grew up to be a Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback.

    Not everyone is so lucky.

    Like I said earlier, I'd be more impressed if the ad had a woman who gave birth to a deformed child to talk about how much of a blessing the child was in her life. Heck, I could even understand if Pam and Tim teamed up with the other mom and deformed kid for the ad.

    But hearing the mom of a Heisman-Trophy winning quarterback talk about how other women should follow her example is disingenuous at best.
     
  11. Cousin Oliver

    Cousin Oliver New Member

    We're not allowed to speculate now?

    I see nothing wrong with questioning the Tebows.

    Did the doctor say, "You definitely should have an abortion."
    Or was it more like, "There is a possibility that your pregnancy might develop complications, at which point you might want to consider ending the pregnancy for your own health reasons."

    There's a lot of distance there.
     
  12. fishhack2009

    fishhack2009 Active Member

    Why?

    The more people like you say, "Move on, nothing to see here," the less chance of it happening, Waylon. Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. And there are laws against misleading advertising.
     
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