Tell me again why we should believe Al Gore

Let's just say -- for the sake arguing -- that these world reknowned scientists are "talking out of their ass" and couldn't possibly know what the temps were prior to 1700 (God forbid we consider that maybe there's other data outside the thermometer to consider).

Even if that's the case, 1,306 years worth of evidence doesn't do it for you?

When you can find one group of scientists who are as respected and bi-partisan as this group and who will agree with your idiotic ideas, then you can question these guys.

Move along.

 

And Tony, Old Boy, Neville Chamberlain rolled over in '38 . ..  and was dead, but a few years later.   The 40's?

Another head-in-the-ground ignoramus.

Deliver us.

 

I liked Old Tony a lot better when he was on Who's the Boss? Old Tony since his talk show got cancelled and has too much time on his hands to propound the history of 18th century scientific instrumentation is scary and mean.

So, if the mercury thermometer, which you consider integral to any discussion about historic warming and cooling, wasn't invented until 1714, how do you know that the earth has always "warmed and cooled in great cycles" since "before man walked the earth?"

And don't be impolite this time.

 

Just believe the damn guy.

 

I'm not knocking the warming/cooling great-cycles read, at all . . . but I know this -- this warm cycle is hitting new heights, and that
ain't good . . .

 

To the first point:

If you're going to make the argument that these historic cycles of heating and cooling are safe for humanity and therefore unworthy of our attention, then, yes, you have to cite proof that we, the human species, have weathered them before. Citing cyclical heating patterns prior to the history of man is meaningless since it offers no evidence of our survivability under such a circumstance.

To the second point:

You're talking about man's arrival in the heating/cooling cycle. You use the phrase "before man walked the earth." You're making Coulter's argument. Coulter believes in the infallibility of the bible. Ergo, you're talking about Adam.

Religious views

Coulter proclaims Christian religious beliefs. At one public lecture she proclaimed her faith in Jesus Christ, saying: "I don't care about anything else: Christ died for my sins and nothing else matters."[34] Confronting some critics' views that her content and style of writing is un-Christian [35][36], she has stated that, "I'm a Christian first and a mean-spirited, bigoted conservative second, and don't you ever forget it."[37] She has also said "...Christianity fuels everything I write. Being a Christian means that I am called upon to do battle against lies, injustice, cruelty, hypocrisy—you know, all the virtues in the church of liberalism."[38]

Time magazine's John Cloud reports that he attended a service at Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City with Coulter, where she worships and often brings guests.[5]

She also quotes Christian scripture in her work. Godless begins with: "They exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creation rather than the creator.... Therefore, God gave them up to passions of dishonor, for their females exchanged the natural use for that which is contrary to nature. — Romans 1:25-26"

Coulter believes, “There’s no physical evidence for [evolution]”, in her book, Godless, and goes onto to state there's “no proof in the scientist’s laboratory or the fossil record.”

I really liked you on "Taxi," Old Tony. When'd you get so mean and bitter?

 

Tony, as I've mentioned on other threads about global warming, I don't believe the "liberal environmentalists" when they talk about it. Instead, I believe my in-laws who have farmed for generations. They keep detailed records of the last frost, first frost, planting dates, harvest dates, rainfall, etc. and they have these records dating back dozens and dozens of years.

When a farmer with a gun rack in the back window of his truck and who believes John Deere is the greatest company in America tells me global warming is bad for our nation's food supply, I believe him.




And now, I'm done feeding this troll.

 

After reading all eight pages of this thread I would just like to add one thing to the discussion.

Ann Coulter is a man, baby.

 

Well, thank god somebody said it.

 

It's the only thing we agree on.

 

I can't believe that I read eight pages of this.
I never thought in all of God's creation that someone would argue that if wasn't the thermometer, scientists would have no way of telling the temperature.
Tree rings, ice cores, historical records. None of those things would provide any kind of clue.

 

Until somebody sticks a thermometer up the Sun's butt, I'm calling bullshit on scientists' claims that it's millions of degrees.

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