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Texas Rangers manager question

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by writing irish, Apr 28, 2008.

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Who is the biggest douche in the managerial history of the Texas Rangers?

  1. Bobby Valentine

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%

  2. Doug Rader

    4 vote(s)
    19.0%

  3. Billy Hunter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Ted Williams

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Billy Martin

    5 vote(s)
    23.8%

  6. Whitey Herzog

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Buck Showalter

    3 vote(s)
    14.3%

  8. Frank Lucchesi

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%

  9. Pat Corrales

    1 vote(s)
    4.8%

  10. Kevin Kennedy

    2 vote(s)
    9.5%

  11. Other

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Oates' presence in Arlington was the best thing ever to happen to a franchise that hasn't had many good things occur. RIP, indeed.
     
    writing irish, Apr 28, 2008
    #13
  2. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Poll needs to be multiple choice.
     
    2muchcoffeeman, Apr 28, 2008
    #14
  3. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    It is, as slappy pointed out, a distinguished list. I'm guessing Martin will win this poll, but Bobby V has many detractors and there are a few dark-horse douches who might surprise and finish first.
     
    writing irish, Apr 28, 2008
    #15
  4. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Yeah, well so is my johnson. /slider
     
    three_bags_full, Apr 28, 2008
    #16
  5. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member


    Loathed by whom?
     
    Smasher_Sloan, Apr 28, 2008
    #17
  6. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Fans. Maybe other people, too.
     
    writing irish, Apr 28, 2008
    #18
  7. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    OK. Great.
     
    Smasher_Sloan, Apr 28, 2008
    #19
  8. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    I don't have anything but anecdotal evidence. I was in high school in Arlington at the time. My dad had ties to the club. I remember hearing gratuitous Rader-bashing from the adults. Most of it was about his managing, but some of it was personal, too. Whether the guy was a douche, I have no idea. People associated him, fairly or unfairly, with the infamous Sundberg-for-Yost trade so he didn't exactly get off on the right foot.
     
    writing irish, Apr 28, 2008
    #20
  9. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Johnny had his quirks and could be pretty thin-skinned at times, but he was a good person and is missed greatly.
     
    Football_Bat, Apr 28, 2008
    #21
  10. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I've talked with a few players who played for Johnny Oates and I never heard anything but the best words that could be spoken of a man said about him. Oates may not have been the best manager ever, but his players loved him like a dad.

    On the other hand, I've also spoken with someone who played or coached under Valentine when he was in Texas. Didn't hear anything nice said about him then. In fact, the worst that I ever saw said about Valentine when he was with the Mets wasn't comparable to what was said about him by someone else. Yowza!
     
    Flying Headbutt, Apr 28, 2008
    #22
  11. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Former Times Herald Rangers beat writer Phil Rogers included an account of the Rader era in his book "The Impossible Takes a Little Longer." I haven't read it since it came out in the early 90s, so I've no immediate recollection of what Rogers had to say about Rader. I have it at home somewhere in a stack of old books.

    My favorite Rangers book is "Seasons in Hell" by Mike Shropshire. Covers 1972-75: Ted, Whitey, Billy. Hilarious stuff.
     
    writing irish, Apr 28, 2008
    #23
  12. HejiraHenry

    HejiraHenry Well-Known Member

    an excellent band name.
     
    HejiraHenry, Apr 29, 2008
    #24
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