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The Biggest LOOSER -- running weight loss thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by The Big Ragu, Mar 18, 2010.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I think that the reason is because it gives people cravings for sugar. That's what I understand.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    The water I'm drinking right now, and it's pretty darn good, is a generic-looking brand called Clear American mandarin orange. It has a good taste. Comes in 33-ounce bottles, so I don't have to go for a new one every half-hour.
     
  3. Beef03

    Beef03 Active Member

    From the studies I've read regarding artificial sweatners is what they are finding is that while sugar is not being pumped into the system the body still reads it as something it needs to produce insulin to process it. It has has nothing to do with cancer or sweettooths. If you're dropping refined sugars from your diet replacing them with laboratory created chemicals is counter productive. I would grab a couple links but I am about to go on a long hike up a mountain. I'll dig one up when I get home, or admit I was wrong if it turns out I miss read or those studies have since been debunked.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Just from my own experience, which admittedly is anecdotal, I could drink 20 diets a day and it wouldn't have any impact on my weight gain or loss. My body seems to treat it like water. For me, at least, everything comes down to calories.
     
  5. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    On the random chance that you're baiting me into a debate with you on this, because we've debated the topic before :) :

    Not only have there been numerous studies showing higher levels of obesity in people who drink diet soda, there have also been studies showing that the sweet taste triggers the body into thinking it's receiving sugar, and releases the usual insulin secretions. But without the actual sugar to offset the insulin, it severely messes up your blood sugar levels, leaving you craving more sugar.

    So the diet soda won't technically make you fatter, but it will send your body in search of other carbs that will.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No debate. It actually looks like we're in lockstep agreement.
     
  7. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    You say that like it's a good thing. :D

    Just kidding. Bottom line, calories in, calories out...doesn't really matter how you get them if you're also burning them. But not everyone burns enough, and someone looking to drop a LOT of weight can afford to cut soda.
     
  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Doggone it, that Clear American water has aspartame. I'll have to look for another option.
     
  9. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    No artificial sweeteners, shot. Drink water. Squeeze in a lemon if you have to.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Seriously. Eat food. REAL food. It will lead you right. Every time.

    If it's a chemical, or an ingredient your grandmother wouldn't have recognized, or something you can't pronounce, chances are it is fucking you up, not helping you (to crudely paraphrase my boy Michael Pollan).

    Nutritionism is the term Pollan uses. We have made ourselves unhealthier by a focus on nutrients as the key to eating. Forget "heart healthy" or "low fat" or "grams of fiber" or "omega-three fatty acids." Or whatever buzzword you heard on Oprah. Just eat food. Mostly Plants. Not too much. (Pollan again)

    If you shop around the perimeter of the supermarket, you won't go wrong. That's where they put the stuff that spoils. If it spoils, it means it is real food. If you eat real food, you won't be able to stop yourself from being healthier.

    If you stray from the perimeter, you are going to make the mistake of buying food-like substances being sold with health claims made up by marketers. That is where you get into the processed messes and glucose-delivery systems and engineered "diet" products that actually make you worse off.

    Artificial ANYTHING isn't good for you. People know this intuitively, yet they look for reasons why artificial sweeteners are OK.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't think they're necessarily OK long-term. I'm just saying that if he's undertaking a lot of changes at once, it might help ease the transition to first go to diet instead of cold turkey if he was a pop drinker. Strictly talking weight loss here, not overall, long-term health.
     
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Got it. I will follow that.
     
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