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The Economy

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, May 14, 2020.

  1. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member


    Dude, it's ALL just paper.

    Edit: Or 1's and zeroes.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2022
  2. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    Twenty-two million millionaires in a population of 330 million amounts to more than 6% of the population. When I was a kid, there was a TV show called "The Millionaire," where a million bucks was portrayed as an absolute life-changing enrichment. I don't think $1 million in "the bank" would enable anyone to retire early these days without some additional source of income, like a fat pension.

    Twenty-nine thousand $5 million IRAs in a sea of 22 million millionaires means one millionaire in 7500 has an account that large. I don't think that's a crisis, as the author seems to imply. Peter Thiel would be a billionaire with or without the Roth IRA benefit. He was smart to put shares of his startup into his Roth, but then, he co-founded Paypal. He's a smart guy.
     
  3. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    If there’s a Hell, Thiel will be in it.
     
  4. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    There is no hell. God isn't real.
     
  5. Mr._Graybeard

    Mr._Graybeard Well-Known Member

    This reminds me of one of my favorite Mojo Nixon songs.

     
  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    I'll tell that to my future pastor wife.
     
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  7. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Only the Big Nothing. That is scary enough.
     
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  8. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    My wife's likely response: "Cool. You're still on that fucking site?"
     
  9. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    "The Wrong Missy" is what is killing Netflix. Worst movie ever.

    I wonder if there are other people like me (disturbing). I, simply, don't have time to try out a show for an hour or two unless I love the lead actor or it's part of a franchise or a subject matter that I adore (Winning Time or the Newsroom). Occasionally, I'll see a rec but it's gotta be from a person whom I think would like exactly what I like.

    I just don't have the time to look through 675 series.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Negative Q1 GDP print just now (i.e. recession?).

    At the same time, the GDP price index overshot expectations @ 8 percent (i.e. inflation).

    It all equals the S word.

    And the Fed still has its thumb up its ass with "hope" as its major strategy.
     
  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Perhaps if they told people the negative GDP mainly affected billionaires people wouldn’t freak out?

     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The actual GDP number? It doesn't affect anyone except for people working at the BEA, and they can make that number say anything depending on the politicized pressures bearing down on them. I think they kitchen sinked the number to try to set themselves up more favorably before the midterm elections, but even if I am wrong, GDP as a construct has become absurd because of decades of government monetized debt fueling epic malinvestment and that number passing it off as "growth."

    The experience most people are having in this country at this moment in time? What the BEA number they released actually showed (and it is broadly a reflection of the true state of the economy) was that wages are skyrocketing, but there is a wage-price spiral going on, because spending way outpaced that wage growth. ... a reflection of prices running away on the working class that guy is talking about.

    In another words, everything anyone with eyes can see is really happening right now. The labor market is incredibly tight, so for every 3 jobs available, there are only 2 people ready and willing to be hired and work. That is sending wages higher; much higher. But the runaway costs of goods and services we are also seeing is more than offsetting those higher wages. ... and we are just starting to see the effects of the spiral, because almost all of the STIMULUSTM that was masquarading as growth in the past is finally running out.

    Keep this in mind. The idiots behind all of this -- spending a lot of money that we don't have, calling it stimulus, and the central bank that has tried to monetize stupid behavior for a long time shitting all over the dollar -- blew up an already housing bubble that has also sent home prices into the stratosphere, making a new home unaffordable for millions of people. That has now spilled over into the rental market, and since this time last year, nationwide rent prices are up 20 percent on average. Those working class people that guy is talking about spend a disproportionate chunk of their earnings on rent. I know the class warfare nonsense in the face of reality is satisfying to a lot of people. But anyone who thinks the mess of an economy currently is somehow hurting billionaires and benefitting average Joe is blind to what those people are actually living.
     
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