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The Economy

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, May 14, 2020.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    Whereas my high school diploma has served me in good stead for nearly 50 years.

    From my understanding of the farm / ranch economy, on an operation with a million dollars in equipment, on a million dollars worth of land, after a year of a million dollars in sales, that $33,000 would account for the entirety of the farmer's annual income.

    Tough way to live unless you love it.
     
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  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    And they do, God bless 'em.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Even then, with all the planning that farmers do (and farmers pre-plan extensively and budget or they go broke in a hurry), something they cannot account for - a drought, a freeze, a spike in fertilizer or fuel prices, can cut into that 33k in a hurry.
     
  4. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    $1M land, $1M equipment, $1M sales, where do we factor in the tens of thousands dollars in government subsidies?

    And honestly, I don't even mean to call out that particular farmer. He/she should receive more subsidies. Let's start by giving them some of the subsidies doled out to corporate farm operations.
     
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  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Corporate farms and energy companies with billions in profits.
     
  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Not that anybody who needs the lesson will absorb it, but this also points out yet again why electing a cartoonishly corrupt authoritarian loudmouth because he happens to hate the same folks you do is a terrible idea. Eventually the roulette wheel stops on zero and competence and trust is irreplaceable.
     
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  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Almost all farms in the U.S. are classified as "family farms." They may be of the corporate form, but such are still owned entirely by a family or family group. Given that, a relatively shallow dive suggests that the accounting being bandied about here is probably pretty far afield (ha!) from reality ... net farm cash income (which includes subsidies, etc.) for, e.g., a farm with $1 million in sales would be several hundred thousand of dollars.

    Farm-level average net cash income

    I still shouldn't have been a farmer, though.
     
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Maybe. But you have to account for the farmer and his wife both driving vehicles owned by the farm, pumping gas paid for by farm accounts and - if they are smart - using their home as the farm office.

    My father-in-law technically owns nothing. Not the 4,000-square-foot house (he rents it from the farm) or even the $100,000 Jeep Grand Wagoneer his wife drives that has never left tarmac. Every accounting trick and loophole possible is used.
     
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  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    SBF guilty on all counts.
     
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  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    But all my money was tied up in FTX Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs!

    I'm ruined!
     
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  11. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    I haven’t seen Ragu here since before the trial started. Hmm.
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I wish someone knowledgeable would explain to me just what a NFT is.

    Wait, wait, wait ... I really don't wish that.
     
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