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"The Force Awakens" (with SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Dick Whitman, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I would have, too. I'm not typically an action fan, and that's OK. You're being just as dismissive of indie films as he is of TFA. Both should be evaluated on the merits. Not the merchandising, or whether or not you like the target audience. Same goes for this critic's argument. Whatever traits you've assigned to him are completely immaterial.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Saw it again yesterday, was there a gravestone near Skywalker at the end?
     
  3. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I like indies just fine, I was more mocking him than indy films. He attaches the word blockbuster to the movie like it's a bad thing. TFA is what it is. It was never meant to be as artistic as a movie filmed over 13 years to have the boy grow up on screen but it isn't bad because it isn't.
    The column reads like he would rather a movie that would get Oscar buzz than a movie that gets sci-fi geeks excited. Nothing is wrong with Oscar buzz movies, but I think you need a different mindset going into a popcorn movie.
     
  4. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that column is pretty awful.

    I'm so sick of the "Hollywood has no ORIGINAL ideas left!" shtick. That's not even remotely true.

    Also, "movies that make money are bad!"
     
  5. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Back to the spoilers, people. I'll never see this movie, but I need talking points.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That is why you fail.

    Seriously, how can you say he is right about the quality of the movie when you haven't seen it?
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2015
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Buck's not saying that. He's saying the writer is correct in a general sense about what makes a movie popular or fun.
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Why did you have to lob a personal attack at Buck? You know that's against board policy, right?
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    The article also criticizes the movie itself. I'm sorry, but I don't take Buck's opinion very seriously in that regard when he hasn't even seen the movie.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Please go troll another thread, Sunshine. This isn't that kind of discussion. You and I both know there was no personal attack in that comment.
     
  11. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    I'm not weighing in on the movie - good or bad. I liked the column.

    Just because someone doesn't like something that is popular, why is that dismissed as hipsterism?

    The point is really just that the blockbuster approach and the long-term marketing needs of a franchise such as Star Wars can have a limiting effect on the aesthetic quality of the movie.

    So, to clarify:
    1. I haven't seen the movie, and I'm not saying it is good or bad. I will see the movie but have not yet.
    2. I like the column because the writer uses his opinion of the movie to discuss his feelings on a broader topic - the effect of the blockbuster approach and long-term franchise marketing needs upon the inherent quality of a movie.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    And all I'm saying is it doesn't make much sense to agree with the column when an evaluation of the movie is a part of it and you haven't seen the movie.
     
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