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The new and improved, fight-free Romney vs. Obama thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, May 16, 2012.

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  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    You can be as sure as you want, but you'd be wrong.

    There are virtually no examples of people using fraudulent identities to vote in any recent election.

    But simple statistics can show us that in areas where voter ID is implemented, voting goes down. And it goes down specifically among people in certain distinctive demographic categories.
     
  2. schiezainc

    schiezainc Well-Known Member

    Again, just going by my state's laws, which make you get a permit to carry a concealed weapon and put a seven-day waiting period on a host of weapons.

    http://federalfirearmlaws.com/gun-permit/gun-permit-by-state/
     
  3. schiezainc

    schiezainc Well-Known Member

    So buying a gun is not a basic right now? How is it any less a right than voting?
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Wait, what?
     
  5. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    It's a matter of silly semantics over what you mean by "basic right."

    If by "basic right" you mean "protected by the Constitution of the United States of America," then yes it is.

    If by "basic right" you mean "fundamental feature of any free society," then no it is not.

    Voting meets both definitions.
     
  6. ifilus

    ifilus Well-Known Member

    Can you cite nine confirmed cases of voter fraud?
     
  7. Stitch

    Stitch Active Member

    Concealed weapons are different, but it looks like you can openly carry a gun without a permit in your state. I doubt the waiting period applies to private sales and gun shows, which means certain politiicans want to make it harder to vote than to buy a gun.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Newt Gingrich:

     
  9. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    You're coming to a gun control fight with Newt Gingrich and Human Events? Couldn't find anything from Wayne LaPierre?
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Rick Stain:

     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The basic understanding of our Constitutional Rights is that we are "endowed" with them.

    Our Government does not grant them, they are charged with making sure they are not infringed.

    The right may be infringed in nations around the globe. Maybe it's not a "fundamental feature of any free society," but it's infringement is necessary for any totalitarian society.

    Doesn't make it any less of a human right.
     
  12. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    Yeah? How did that work out for Negroes until the mid-1960s?
     
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