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The organic food thing

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    Thought this might be the best place to put this:

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/08/the-psychology-of-distrusting-gmos.html

    The upshot: Fear of GMOs is all in our heads.
     
  2. spikechiquet

    spikechiquet Well-Known Member

    Amen! Reading about some people's wives on this thread makes me thank God for my wife even more.
    We each have things we like and don't like and we don't try to limit that person in their lifestyle.
    I'm also glad she is not a Organic nazi. We buy a mix of stuff. Organic kale chips along with the Funions. Bagged Tyson chicken and organic eggs. NASCAR (her) and NHL (me). We work opposite schedules, and have, since we met. So the time I spend with her (which amounts to two week nights and weekend afternoons) we aren't going to force shit on each other.
     
  3. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Haven't read this entire thread but has anyone defined what "organic" means?

    Labeling of a lot of food as organic is a marketing scam because the rules are so lax, thanks to, guess what, corporate lobbying.

    We try and buy locally wherever possible.

    HC & I buy almost all of our meat--beef, pork, lamb and chicken-- from farm stores because we know who raised the animals. Free range chickens raised without antibiotics are significantly healthier and tastier than chickens raised in a factory. We have a 9 lb chicken that spent its life pecking around outside. It will be an event to cook and eat.

    We love spring, summer and fall because we can buy all fruit and vegetables from farms or farmer markets.

    We pig out on asparagus for the six weeks or so it's available in Ontario. We could buy asparagus from Peru in December but we don't.

    The great advantage to buying locally is that everything tastes better.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Organic means veggies produced without pesticides and using fertilizers made with synthetic ingredients. It means no bioegineering. With meat, poultry, eggs, dairy, it also means animals that weren't given antibiotics or growth hormones.

    The USDA certifies farms organic based on inspections. I don't know what kind of resources they have, or how much corruption there is, but most evidence is that it isn't a scam. And rules aren't lax. If anything, the evidence is that it is a lot of smaller farms that pride themselves on growing organic food, and wouldn't risk cheating because they will lose their reputation.

    But who knows? If you don't grow it yourself, you don't really know.

    As I said earlier on the thread, I think organic is great, but it isn't the end-all, be-all of eating well. Local is as, or more important, because fruit and veggies that travels around the world before getting to your table, loses a lot. Also, organic is only meaningful to me when you are buying fresh, whole foods. Processed, packaged foods can still be labeled organic, and you might as well just eat any crap if you are going to eat that way. An organic oreo is not health food.
     
  5. Here me roar

    Here me roar Guest

    I do some organic, but not all and I don't obsess about it. Always organic apples, though, because, they just taste better, like apples I used to pick off the tree in our yard growing up. Organic milk because the content of non-organic milk seems disgusting with hormones and antibiotics and, from what I've read, traces of blood.
     
  6. Bradley Guire

    Bradley Guire Well-Known Member

    One day, I'm going to die. So I might as well have that Whopper and quit worrying so damn much.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Well, that's what my dad said about smoking. Sure, he was going to die some day. I'd have liked to have seen him live past 61, though.

    Anyway, Slate piece today, "Organic Schmorganic," makes a pretty convincing case that organic food is a waste of money:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/the_kids/2014/01/organic_vs_conventional_produce_for_kids_you_don_t_need_to_fear_pesticides.html
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Shit. I've always thought that, but now that I see it in Slate I might have to reconsider.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't care about where it ran. But I do care about some of the information in there about synthetic and natural pesticides, safe amounts, and so forth.
     
  10. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Slate also made a "pretty convincing case" that puppies suck and that teaching toddlers to share was a bad thing.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What are your specific objections to the supporting facts in the Slate column on organic food?
     
  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    None, but A) I don't have time to do the research to see if there's other evidence the author ignored and B) there are other reasons for buying organic than just the concern about chemical-laden fruits and veggies.
     
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