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The Pirate Speaks: Leach thread v2.0

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mb, Dec 30, 2009.

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  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You mean the trainers who still have to work there, the ones who would at least be partially at fault if they allowed a coach to mistreat an injured player? Sorry, but I think your bullshit detector is broken.
     
    outofplace, Jan 1, 2010
    #145
  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I made that analogy a few posts ago. I didn't hear that commentator, either. It's obvious.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 1, 2010
    #146
  3. Smash Williams

    Smash Williams Well-Known Member

    I never said he had cause to complain. Ragu had the perfect analogy - he handed a loaded gun to people who wanted to kill him, but those people were going to try and kill him regardless.
     
    Smash Williams, Jan 1, 2010
    #147
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Thank you for contributing, well, nothing.
     
    outofplace, Jan 1, 2010
    #148
  5. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    He was sent here:

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    Edit: He was walking, just not fast enough it seems:

    "However, Pincock said James was initially placed in a "sports medicine garage, there is no lock on this building." Pincock said injured players are typically asked to perform exercises during practice, but "James could not participate in these drills, and was originally asked to walk around the field."

    "Adam showed up to practice in street clothes, no team gear, and dark sunglasses," Pincock said, according to the statement. "Adam walked about 40 to 50 yards, very slowly and with a non-caring attitude."

    A concussion makes movement difficult at times. Maybe that was part of it, maybe not.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4787194
     
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    Machine Head, Jan 1, 2010
    #149
  6. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Then can him. Don't haze him. And Tech's administration apparently didn't think his rule should have been the rule. Its call, no matter the motivation. The FOI e-mails show an administration that did its homework and discovered Leach had no leverage, other than perhaps angry boosters, in contract negotiations.
     
    dooley_womack1, Jan 1, 2010
    #150
  7. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I admit I don't follow Texas Tech all that closely but this bit about this really being all about the contract negotiations: Hey, if you think the coach is being a jerk and is not worth the money, how about not paying him?

    I would think that in this day and age that would go over pretty well. Though, admittedly, perhaps not in West Texas.

    And it's funny that somone who hired Bob Knight would be having an issue with a big-headed coach.
     
    Ace, Jan 1, 2010
    #151
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Huh? Your first post said something about a football player being able to call in sick and beg out of practice. My response was that it doesn't work that way in any D-I football program I know of. You are expected to be at practice unless you get permission not to attend. That includes injured players, who are expected to physically be there. It's a pretty standard team rule and there are obvious reasons for it.

    Your response to me above has nothing to do with your first post or my response to it. He hazed the kid; or at least it appears to me he did. It doesn't mean, as you said in your first post, that a kid who had suffered a mild concussion but was cleared to simply attend the practice had no need to be anywhere near the practice. That isn't orthodoxy.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 1, 2010
    #152
  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Him not wanting to practice, whether orthodoxy or not (I'm sure plenty of coaches would have let him stay home), doesn't justify Leach's actions and Leach deserves what came to him. About all Leach has to offer in future job interviews is "well, at least I'm not as big a prick as Mangino is"
     
    dooley_womack1, Jan 1, 2010
    #153
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Dooley have you played or coached football in college?
     
    Boom_70, Jan 1, 2010
    #154
  11. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    No, and neither have you. Point?
     
    dooley_womack1, Jan 1, 2010
    #155
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The AD hated Leach. And the negotiations last year made it even worse, because his agent treated the AD like he was an idiot. The fans and the boosters love Leach -- for obvious reasons. He has put the program on the map.

    There were enough people at the university who realized they couldn't let him walk without a revolt. But the AD and him were like oil and water. So the school's chancellor stepped in when the AD found it impossible to work out a contract and he got the deal done. It was a deal the AD didn't really approve of. And it left Leach working for a guy who he had alienated and thought he was overpaid.

    There are always multiple personalities involved in these things.
     
    The Big Ragu, Jan 1, 2010
    #156
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