The Pirate Speaks: Leach thread v2.0

outofplace · Dec 31, 2009

Mizzougrad96 said:

It's amazing how different the stories are on SI.com and Sportsline compared to ESPN.

Stewart Mandel and Matty Hayes both essentially say Leach was ambushed and one of them said James' credibility as a college football analyst must be taken into serious question now.
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Yet none of that changes the fact that he punished a player for having a concussion and when his employer suspended him pending an investigation, he actually filed for an injunction against his employer.

Ace · Dec 31, 2009

SockPuppet said:

If you wade through the e-mails obtained by the DMN (all pertaining to the contract negotiations of a year ago) you get the idea that Leach and his agents believed they could pull a fast one on what they consider West Texas rubes. Sounds like most of Leach's "job offers/interviews" were planted by his agents.

The incident with Adam James gave Tech the leverage it needed to force Leach's hand. They asked him to sign off on a letter of conduct, probably knowing that he would refuse. That gave them the reason to suspend him and they probably figured he'd go to court for a restraining order. Two acts of "eff you" defiance and they pulled the trigger.

If Adam James was a slacker, Leach could have suspended him and then let him transfer (rumor has it James wanted to transfer to SMU but Leach doesn't allow transfers to instate I-A schools). Instead of being smart, Leach punished James in a humiliating manner (there was no "danger" involved). Leach figured that he was in such a strong position of strength that he could get away with anything. He figured wrong.
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This.

Ace · Dec 31, 2009

I love Leach's initial statement crying foul of "lies!"

If someone complains about lies but chooses not to mention what any of the alleged lies are, you lose me. I am going to assume that most -- if not all -- are true and you are crying "lie!" to fudge and salvage your reputation.

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) · Dec 31, 2009

Former Texas Tech football coach Mike Leach released th' followin' statement Wensdee night about his firing:
“I want sea dogs an' land lubbers t' know what a privilege an' pleasure 't be t' teach an' coach more than 400 student-athletes at Texas Tech University o'er th' past 10 voyages.

When I arrived at Texas Tech, th' football program be on NCAA probation an' th' graduation rate be far below th' national average. However, in th' past 10 voyages, Tech be t' 10 straight bowl games, has th' third best record in th' Big 12 Conference, an' has th' highest graduation rate fer football players o' any public institution in th' country.
O'er th' past several moons, thar ben swabbies in th' Texas Tech administration, Board o' Regents an' booster squadrons who be havin' dealt in lies, an' continue t' do so. These lies be havin' led t' me firin' this mornin'. I steadfastly refuse t' deal in any lies, an' be disappointed that I be havin' nay been afforded th' opportunity fer th' truth t' be known.
Texas Tech’s decision t' deal in lies an' fabricate a story which led t' me firin', includes, but be nay limited by, th' animosity remainin' from last voyage’s contract negotiations. I will nay tolerate such retaliatory action; additionally, we will pursue all available legal remedies.

These actions taken by Texas Tech be havin' severely damaged me reputation an' public image. In addition, Texas Tech has caused harm t' nay only me family, but t' th' entire Red Raider nation an' th' sport o' college football.
As ye know, I prefer t' engage in question an' answer sessions; however, in this instance me counsel has advised me t' simply make a statement. Thar be time t' answer questions about this issue in th' future, but th' serious legal nature o' this situation prevents me from goin' into further detail at this time.”
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JayFarrar · Dec 31, 2009

ArnoldBabar said:

That's great stuff. Reminds me of those amazing moments when you've FOIA'd the hell out of a story you've been working on, and you are begrudgingly delivered that hefty file of badly photocopied emails. Sitting before you is Christmas Day; access to the political and thought processes your subjects spent so much time massaging and keeping away from you. There it all is, the real stuff, the real discussions by the real decision-makers. They know you've seen it, and they know they can no longer bullshit and cover.

I won't lie. I always got at at least half a rod from diving into a key FOIA package like that for my beat. It's orgasmic, from a journalistic perspective.
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No kidding. Digging into FOIA documents and when you make the connection is pretty fantastic.

2muchcoffeeman · Dec 31, 2009

Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L) said:

Former Texas Tech football coach Mike Leach released th' followin' statement Wensdee night about his firing:
“I want sea dogs an' land lubbers t' know what a privilege an' pleasure 't be t' teach an' coach more than 400 student-athletes at Texas Tech University o'er th' past 10 voyages.

When I arrived at Texas Tech, th' football program be on NCAA probation an' th' graduation rate be far below th' national average. However, in th' past 10 voyages, Tech be t' 10 straight bowl games, has th' third best record in th' Big 12 Conference, an' has th' highest graduation rate fer football players o' any public institution in th' country.
O'er th' past several moons, thar ben swabbies in th' Texas Tech administration, Board o' Regents an' booster squadrons who be havin' dealt in lies, an' continue t' do so. These lies be havin' led t' me firin' this mornin'. I steadfastly refuse t' deal in any lies, an' be disappointed that I be havin' nay been afforded th' opportunity fer th' truth t' be known.
Texas Tech’s decision t' deal in lies an' fabricate a story which led t' me firin', includes, but be nay limited by, th' animosity remainin' from last voyage’s contract negotiations. I will nay tolerate such retaliatory action; additionally, we will pursue all available legal remedies.

These actions taken by Texas Tech be havin' severely damaged me reputation an' public image. In addition, Texas Tech has caused harm t' nay only me family, but t' th' entire Red Raider nation an' th' sport o' college football.
As ye know, I prefer t' engage in question an' answer sessions; however, in this instance me counsel has advised me t' simply make a statement. Thar be time t' answer questions about this issue in th' future, but th' serious legal nature o' this situation prevents me from goin' into further detail at this time.”
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Arrrr! Rum an' a wench for this scurvy dog!

Mizzougrad96 · Dec 31, 2009

Schad is reporting that Tuberville wants the Tech job.

That would be a great hire, but I'm guessing Tech can't afford it.

DanOregon · Dec 31, 2009

Alums make or break coaches. If Leach had a sugar daddy at Tech instead of people who wanted him gone there isn't a doubt in my mind that he'd still be there.

BitterYoungMatador2 · Dec 31, 2009

"Yo, bitches, I'm comin'...
...to yaw ci-tay!"

micropolitan guy · Dec 31, 2009

If you wade through the e-mails obtained by the DMN (all pertaining to the contract negotiations of a year ago) you get the idea that Leach and his agents believed they could pull a fast one on what they consider West Texas rubes. Sounds like most of Leach's "job offers/interviews" were planted by his agents.

The incident with Adam James gave Tech the leverage it needed to force Leach's hand. They asked him to sign off on a letter of conduct, probably knowing that he would refuse. That gave them the reason to suspend him and they probably figured he'd go to court for a restraining order. Two acts of "eff you" defiance and they pulled the trigger.

If Adam James was a slacker, Leach could have suspended him and then let him transfer (rumor has it James wanted to transfer to SMU but Leach doesn't allow transfers to instate I-A schools). Instead of being smart, Leach punished James in a humiliating manner (there was no "danger" involved). Leach figured that he was in such a strong position of strength that he could get away with anything. He figured wrong.
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Outstanding, concise analysis.

Discipline through humiliation is terrible coaching. And to those pooh-poohing what Leach did to James - slacker or not - please go to your garage or lawn shed, turn off all the lights, and stand there for 2-3 hours, twice in three days, and report back about what an enjoyable experience it was.

Better yet, have a high school coach do it to your kid, and tell me your reaction.

Somertimes it's nice to see the smart-alec kid get outsmarted. I have to think a West Texas university president is a pretty good poker player, too.

Bob Cook · Dec 31, 2009

Great point, Dan. I can imagine Leach being as impolitic with the Big Hats as he was with the powers-that-be in the university. Especially trouble if any of those Big Hats are buddies with Craig James.

Boom_70 · Dec 31, 2009

Does anyone know if Adam James is playing Saturday. His concussion was not that long ago. It seems like it might be dangerous to play.

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