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The Ray Rice Elevator Video

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The NFL didn't know anything until Monday:

    It would be really unfair to render any judgement against Ray without the video.
     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    How about the lack of similar coverage for others accused of domestic violence currently playing with little to no discipline by the league or the teams? Where's the follow up with Goodell about McDonald and Hardy? What about the followup with Harbaugh and the Ravens about Suggs' history? Where is the outrage or concern about the cases without video?

    What about criticism of morons like Marcellus Wiley and Jason Whitlock for their serious lack of judgment and analysis of the Ray Rice case before the video? If they got this wrong, why should their employer hoist them upon the public as knowledgeable commentators whose judgment about issues is to be considered 'informed and intelligent'?

    The journalistic problem in this case is the lack of context. THAT is the journalists' job right after getting the facts. But facts without context are meaningless. Rice is not unique. He's another in a long line of violent domestic abusers in the NFL, in particular. Where is that context?
     
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  3. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I mean, preferential treatment for famous people is always going to exist.

    I just don't see how a highly trained law enforcement officer sees that video and says, "this guy just needs counseling."
     
  4. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Domestic violence cases where the victim isn't interested in supporting charges are both sadly common and very hard to prosecute.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Unless, and except, when there's a video.
     
  6. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Not when you have a video that shows her quite clearly getting her clock cleaned.
     
  7. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    The real problem is that most people have very little understanding about what domestic violence is all about, and it takes airing video footage of the Ray Rice case to get people to understand what it's really all about.

    Certainly a more open, honest discussion about domestic violence would do a lot, but as one commenter I read on Deadspin remarked, too many people think domestic disputes of all types are something the couple needs to resolve and it's really nobody's business otherwise.

    It's really unfortunate it took TMZ releasing videos of what happened between Ray Rice and Janay Palmer to get people to quit being so ignorant. I just wonder if people will go back to their ignorant status once Ray Rice is no longer the "topic du jour."
     
  8. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    They probably will. Because 99.99999999 percent of the time there won't be video.
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    On the bright side, chivalry is so passé so a dude should be able to punch chicks, too. Equality and shit.
     
  10. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    http://sidespin.kinja.com/roger-goodell-is-a-domestic-violence-enabler-who-must-b-1632385955

    Since Goodell took over:

    56 instances of domestic violence
    13 games suspended (combined)
    10 players released
     
  11. You beat me to it....

    By team:
    24 teams had at least one player. Cleveland, Indy, NY Giants, Washington had none listed.
    Denver had nine players. Three belong to Brandon Marshall.
    Pittsburgh, Atlanta and Seattle had the second most players involved at 4 each.

    Terrell Suggs is not listed.
     
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  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    I remember when Irving Fryer's wife cut his hand with a knife before The Pats
    AFC Championship Game with Dolphins and many thought it was funny. "Domestic
    violence " was not even a phrase yet.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=950&dat=19860111&id=6ApZAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Y1kDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5344,2554657
     
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