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The Ray Rice Elevator Video

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    After Clinton NOW has no standing.
     
  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Adam Carolla is credited with bringing this nugget out of mothballs. It is hilarious.

    I think the angle is not that Deacon was advocating violence against women... it was that in the seventies, it was first drummed into everyone's head that a woman can do everything a man can do.... "If the President chooses, he, *or she*, can......"
     
  3. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    "Or a woman" was edited out of that clip in the "A Football Life" about the Fearsome Foursome that aired last year.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Everyone laughed when Ralph would threaten to send Alice to the Moon

    Bang zoomm...................
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Freudian slip. Dick meant everybody and their lawyer.
     
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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Andrew Sharp, Grantland:

     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    When does Goodell resign?
     
  8. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    This has been bugging me all morning, so I'll throw it to the crowd here. Jodi Kantor, of Michelle Obama stenography, writes a piece talking about Why Janay Rice stayed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/us/seeing-abuse-and-a-pattern-too-familiar.html

    Bugs me for multiple reasons:

    1. The quotes from Janay Rice are taken from a "story" written by a Towson student, who then published them on a WordPress Document. Not in the Towson student paper, mind you. On some WordPress blog. I don't know what the lowest possible bar is for just assuming shit you see on the Internet is true, and it's very likely Janay Rice did say those things, but seriously, this is how the Manti Te'o shit happened. The NYT just saw some quotes on the Internet, assumes they're legit, and then uses them to made broad, sweeping generalizations about reasons Janay Rice is staying with Ray Rice. It also performs a classic journalism slight-of-hand where it uses quotes it says came from a second source, but are really just quotes that another newspaper (with slightly more credibility than a student's WordPress blog) took from that original WordPress blog. I presume without making any attempt to verify them. Oh by the way, the original student's blog grossly misrepresents a shoplifting incident that Janay Rice was charged with, playing it off like it was a lie told some "media haters" when in fact she was charged with shoplifting (according to court documents) but the charges were later dropped. I just cannot even believe this is the New York Times now. A WordPress blog. By a student journalist. That's your source.

    2. One of main sweeping generalizations Kantor makes about Janay Rice is that (wink, wink) she liked getting money and a car from Ray Rice, and so that must be one of the reasons she's staying. Because without Ray Rice, how is this material chick going to get her swag on? (Would Kantor imply that about any of her Bourgeoisie Georgetown friends if they were in abusive relationships?) The subtle condescension, to me, is gross. Maybe Janay Rice is in danger, maybe she is like many domestic violence victims in that she doesn't have the courage to leave for various reasons. You want to make that larger point about women, OK. But she is not a prop that you can just assign motives to without talking to her.

    I know it's important to discuss the "Why Women Stay" angle — although, again, it seems to put the onus on women instead of the men who beat them — but it takes a very specific situation that Kantor knows very little about, turns her into lesson we can all learn from.

    Pray for Janay Rice, if that's your thing. But the broad speculation — generally these things are true about DV victims, so let's go ahead and assume they're motivating Janay Rice — yuck.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Seems like there is a way for that the NFL could tack on domestic violence awareness
    to their on going "Heads Up " campaign.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Broaddrick had no credibility. She told Jones' lawyers she wasn't raped, then claimed years later that she lied. She changed her story numerous times.

    Jones was really credible, too. Her lawyers came from conservative organizations. No political agenda there.

    Willey made numerous lies, including telling the FBI she was pregnant when she was not. No credibility problems there.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He needs to fight back hard before this overwhelms him.

    I'm thinking he comes out and makes a defiant statement surrounded by all 32 owners, stating that he's going to get back to work:

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  12. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Not anytime soon. If ever.
     
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