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The Ray Rice Elevator Video

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    This will subside too by Week 4.
     
  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    The biggest joke is it took TMZ to get people talking about spousal abuse.
    Which Norah O'Donnell referred to as "the site called TMZ," like it were some Geocities account.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Dude, O.J. Simpson.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    LOL. Isn't that great? She's almost embarrassed to mention it.

    The Times has had some great descriptors of websites that have broken political news, but out of deference to DD's delicate sensibilities, I'll refrain from mentioning any of them.
     
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Agree, but nothing changes anymore without pressure from the public expressing anger, frustration. Belcher killed his partner, and THEN Ray Rice slugged his partner, and no one really connected the two as examples of NFL players doing awful things to women. If, say, a month from now, Brandon Marshall beats up his girlfriend/wife (for what I believe would be the third for four time) no one is going to not connect it to the Rice issue. Goodell will be forced to think about it, the media will as well, and the consequences will factor in. We may, in fact, have a big fricken conversation about why Brandon Marshall wasn't banned previously, and maybe THAT costs Goodell his job. But it sure seems like a murder of a woman went away very quickly so we could get back to football. I get why Rice is much easier to process, the way it played out over six months and the Ravens idiot decisions along the way were like dumping gas on the fire, but still. A guy murdered his girlfriend, then killed himself in front of coaches/execs. Even now, it's barely brought up.

    As for OJ, Dick, he wasn't in the NFL anymore, and it was a very different era. He was as much a celebrity as he was a football player at that point. I never even saw the guy play football, in fact. I knew him for for being in The Naked Gun.
     
  6. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    I railed on the Times two pages ago, one of your hobby horse topics. Why didn't you jump in then?
     
  7. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    "National conversations" are way overrated.

    We had a terrific national conversation about gun violence following Sandy Hook until it devolved into a national petty argument.
     
  8. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Old Norah's part of the Washington media "elite." She can't get her purty little hands dirty giving credit to a website.
     
  9. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Excuse me, Roger, there is a website called Thirty Mile Zone or TMZ, you've heard of it, yes?
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I understand all that, but I'm sure you recall the national conversation we had about domestic violence then. If O.J. could do it, anybody could!

    Sure, he was an ex-football player, retired for at least a decade at that point. But it seems odd to me, in hindsight, that the NFL emerged unscathed in that conversation.

    Also: Rae Carruth.
     
  11. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Is hobby horse the merry-go-round at the fair? Or is that hoppy horse? Have I been using the wrong term my entire life?
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Hey, I'm trying to pick my spots.

    You slammed me for my generic talking points, and my Clinton reference.

    I didn't want to climb aboard the "Michelle Obama stenographer" train, and make you feel bad for using the term.
     
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