The Ray Rice Elevator Video

3_Octave_Fart · Sep 10, 2014

I dealt with Aiello a number of years ago for an assignment.
It took bloody forever just to get him on the line, which is no surprise.
He also was one of the cagiest fuckers I've ever spoken with, revealing not one particle of anything useful.
It was a waste of both our times, along with the secretary I bugged the shit out of just to get the guy on the phone.

cjericho · Sep 10, 2014

outofplace said:

A Steelers fan reminded me about this reaction from Ray Rice when Hines Ward was facing a DUI charge (which was later dropped) a while back.

"People look up to you, Hines," Rice said. "You just were on TV with Dancing with the Stars. Ravens fans were upset that you won Dancing with the Stars but they still watched you. That shows your charisma and character. You've got a legacy in the NFL that no one can take away from you. But if you hurt somebody drunk driving, that takes away a lot."

I don't remember why the charges were dropped and I certainly don't agree with everything Hines Ward has said and done, but I'm guessing he remembers those comments very vividly in light of the position Rice has put himself in.

By the way, Steelers cornerback William Gay's name should come up if they deal with this during the Thursday night broadcast. Gay's mother was murdered by his stepfather when he was seven years old. He said he plans to reach out to Rice.

“I’m going to reach out [to Rice]," Gay said. "I love trying to prevent domestic violence. I’m going to reach out in any type of way just to give him a talk and let him know on my end, how it hurt me, how it changed my life.”

Here is the Post-Gazette's story on Steelers reaction to the Rice incident.
http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2014/09/08/Steelers-William-Gay-wants-to-help-Ray-Rice/stories/201409080199
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Howard Stern was saying this would hurt Ray Rice's chances of being on Dancing with the Stars.

Steak Snabler · Sep 10, 2014

Atlantic City DA says Rice would have avoided jail, even if the case had gone to trial:

Rice was charged with third-degree aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury. Third-degree charges — especially for someone like Rice with no criminal record — carry a presumption of no incarceration.

To result in a second-degree aggravated assault charge, a crime has to involve “serious,” or permanent, bodily injury. There is no first-degree charge of aggravated assault.

“People need to understand, the choice was not PTI [pre-trial intervention] versus five years state prison,” McClain said. “The choice was not PTI versus the No Early Release Act on a 10-year sentence. The parameters as they existed were: Is this a PTI case or a probation case?”

The video would have been enough evidence against Rice to get a conviction at trial, even without Palmer’s cooperation, he said. But all that would have come after the headlines and the daily coverage would be a probationary sentence, “and it’s not fair to the victim to put her through that when that was the difference.”
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http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/prosecutor-explains-decision-to-grant-ray-rice-pti/article_2bf2cbb4-3942-11e4-a60c-0b72c514d714.html?mode=jqm

Double Down · Sep 10, 2014

Slate (lol, wut?) just cracked a great joke: For NFL admit wrongdoing here, NFL will need to see video proof of NFL execs watching this video. That is the standard, after all.

LongTimeListener · Sep 10, 2014

The current NFL.com story, in full:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000392655/article/ap-law-enforcement-official-sent-ray-rice-tape-to-nfl

AP: Law enforcement official sent Ray Rice tape to NFL

According to The Associated Press, a law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee Janay Palmer to an NFL executive in April.

"We have no knowledge of this," the NFL said in a statement Wednesday. "We are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on Monday. We will look into it."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a letter Wednesday to all 32 club owners and presidents Wednesday addressing the Rice investigation. (The full letter can be read here.)

"First, we did not see video of what took place inside the elevator until it was publicly released on Monday. When the new video evidence became available, we acted promptly and imposed an indefinite suspension on Mr. Rice," Goodell wrote.

Goodell was set to make an appearance Wednesday night at an event in Charlotte honoring Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, but he has since canceled, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

Rice was suspended indefinitely by the NFL on Monday shortly after Rice's release by the Baltimore Ravens. A video emerged on TMZ of Rice punching Palmer in an Atlantic City casino elevator. Rice was previously suspended two games on July 24 for violating the league's personal conduct policy for the same incident.

Since Rice's original suspension, Goodell announced sweeping changes to the personal conduct policy concerning domestic violence cases. Violations regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force "will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense." A second offense will result in banishment from the NFL for at least one year.

Boom_70 · Sep 10, 2014

Anastasia Danias is The Vice President of Legal Affairs for The NFl. I bet that is who the
tape was sent to.

MileHigh · Dec 15, 2014

This is such a clusterfuck, I don't know where to begin other than Goodell is cooked. Has to be. There's so much lying and cover-up going on, no one knows their right hand from their left.

Oh. And this.

poindexter · Sep 10, 2014

Double Down said:

Seriously consider Goodell's reign for a moment:

Spygate: Evidence destroyed. Why? No explanation ever offered.
Bountygate: Presumption of guilt, major suspensions, all overturned by former comish, who had to be brought in to arbitrate because of bias accusation.
Referee lockout: Ill-conceived union-busting attempt results in a total debacle in Packers-Seahawks game.
Lockout: First work stoppage in 25 years.
Concussions: Growing proof the NFL lied or mislead players about head injuries. League negotiates absurd settlement with retired players that will be a mess in court for a decade or more.
Redskins: La la la la, nothing to see here! It's heritage!
Ray Rice: whoops! Really effed that one up. But rest assured it was out of ignorance not evil!

Am I missing anything? The Bucs MRSA stuff maybe?
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Here's a few more under Goodell's reign of error:

*The ridiculous flirtation with London. Its a nonstarter long term, its a mess for the teams, and it looks cheap.
*Changing the OT rule. Just an idiotic overreaction to one playoff game. Have you ever tried to explain the rule to a new fan? Try it some time. Or the old way: First team to score wins
*Talking out of his mouth one on side about player safety.. then pushing for an 18 game season (which few fans want)

Good god, he sucks.

3_Octave_Fart · Sep 10, 2014

He also wants to expand the playoff field, when it's already the most ideal format in professional sports.

poindexter · Sep 10, 2014

Steve Bisciotti, Courage Under Fire:

Jeff Zrebiec ✔ @jeffzrebiecsun

Bisciotti on why he didn't speak Monday: "This was so emotionally tough on us that there is no way I could have prepared to meet the press."
4:49 PM - 10 Sep 2014

poindexter · Sep 10, 2014

3_Octave_Fart said:

He also wants to expand the playoff field, when it's already the most ideal format in professional sports.
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Another excellent example.

Lets change the playoff format that EVERYBODY loves.

BurnsWhenIPee · Sep 10, 2014

LongTimeListener said:

The current NFL.com story, in full:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000392655/article/ap-law-enforcement-official-sent-ray-rice-tape-to-nfl

AP: Law enforcement official sent Ray Rice tape to NFL

According to The Associated Press, a law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee Janay Palmer to an NFL executive in April.

"We have no knowledge of this," the NFL said in a statement Wednesday. "We are not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on Monday. We will look into it."

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell sent a letter Wednesday to all 32 club owners and presidents Wednesday addressing the Rice investigation. (The full letter can be read here.)

"First, we did not see video of what took place inside the elevator until it was publicly released on Monday. When the new video evidence became available, we acted promptly and imposed an indefinite suspension on Mr. Rice," Goodell wrote.

Goodell was set to make an appearance Wednesday night at an event in Charlotte honoring Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, but he has since canceled, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

Rice was suspended indefinitely by the NFL on Monday shortly after Rice's release by the Baltimore Ravens. A video emerged on TMZ of Rice punching Palmer in an Atlantic City casino elevator. Rice was previously suspended two games on July 24 for violating the league's personal conduct policy for the same incident.

Since Rice's original suspension, Goodell announced sweeping changes to the personal conduct policy concerning domestic violence cases. Violations regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force "will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense." A second offense will result in banishment from the NFL for at least one year.
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What a, um, surprise that they don't mention the voicemail from a phone number at the NFL offices confirming they received it and the person commenting on what was on the video.

Initially, I thought there was no way Goodell loses his job over this. Now I'm thinking there's no way he keeps his job.

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