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The Ray Rice Elevator Video

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's a given at all that Goodell is keeping his job. The external investigation will buy a lot of time and even if it comes out that he knew more than he said he did, he might be able to salvage his job. I think if it comes out definitively that he saw the tape and then lied about it, he's done.

    I don't think it's a surprise that the owners are being supportive pending the investigation. If it comes out that he definitely saw the tape, there is plenty of time for them to switch direction.
     
  2. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Mamaroneck is a great lunch town. Beside's Walter's and Sal's you also have Anthony's Italian deli. So you can get your hot dog, your slice or your Italian combo and go sit at Harbor Island Park and watch the sail boats in the Sound.
     
  3. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    No.
    They're figuring they can't possibly look any worse than they do right now, so why change anything?
    Nothing that is happening right now is affecting the owners' pocketbooks in any way. Now, when/if it starts affecting their bottom line, you may very well see some changes.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I am not certain he is safe. I don't think it would have been the owner way to can him immediately. They don't do things that way. They calculate first.

    It is interesting that the two owners they appointed to deal with Mueller's investigation are Art Rooney and John Mara. Two things about that. If they want Goodell gone, it will be done. They are virtually the same person, including siblings marrying each other. Second, I believe Rooney was the only owner who voted against the CBA Goodell negotiated because he thought it gave Goodell too much power. He would like to reign Goodell in -- or perhaps get rid of him.

    I am not sure if they are circling the wagons right now or arranging for an investigation that gives them a report with which to get rid of Goodell.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Wow. I'm speechless.

    Someone that clueless cannot keep his job.

    The world knows now what we all knew two days after this broke - the NFL is run by complete meatheads.

    They all believed they were. They are meatheads, remember.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Isn't Goodell a lawyer? I know Adam Silver is, but is Goodell?

    Goodell relying on his own intuitions about domestic violence rather than doing a moment of research into the topic is quite a lawyerly thing to do.

    I've seen lawyers argue that eyewitnesses recall violent incidents with more clarity, when the indisputable weight of the evidence shows otherwise and has for decades. I've had lawyers roll their eyes when I suggest that we cite empirical evidence rather than rely on our own assumptions.

    It is a profession begging for its own "Moneyball" revolution.

    EDIT: I guess he's not one. I thought he was. He's an economics major. That's pretty shocking.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Something that would absolve him for punching her in the face?
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    MLB was highly criticized at the time but looking pretty good now in
    the way they handled ARod/ Biogenesis.

    Selig delegating the job to Rob Manfredi made sense. It left Selig out of
    direct line of fire.
     
  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    What's shocking about it? Are you saying that being an attorney is prerequisite for
    being a commissioner?
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    You've gone back to this well four or five times now. It's a classic abuser's ploy, get people to rally by wondering what she ***might*** have done.

    You're losing sight of what was on the video. It isn't a guy trying to restrain a woman and she gets a bump. He coldcocked her like they were in a boxing match and he was going for the knockout. There's no excuse or mitigation for that.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    22 years ago MLB was pissed when the Yankees advocated on Steve Howe's behalf when he was facing a lifetime suspension for drug use:

    In 2014, Goodell has the Ravens GM and team president in the room, advocating on behalf of their player, as he weighs disciplinary action.

    This thing was like the opposite of a grand jury investigation where only the prosecution presents its case.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Spencer Hall had a tremendous opening paragraph describing Goodell's qualifications. (I hope I don't offend shockey.)

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/9/11/6133393/roger-goodell-ray-rice-nfl-owners

    Remember now what a blank social boffin the NFL strapped to its face to begin with: a Senator's son from a safety school who quite literally never worked anywhere else but in the sports job he got directly out of college. Roger Goodell's resume is a hollow blandishment of institutional servitude. He fought in the arbitration wars; he coordinated the events. Calendars were heroically arranged.
     
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