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The Right Way to Walk on Eggshells

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Stick2TheScript(s), Jun 23, 2008.

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  1. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    If you work for someone who would fire you for that, you are not working where you ought to be anyway. Plus, you could sue his/her ass. I couldn't just up and fire someone because I wanted to fire someone. There had to be a really good reason. I imagine it is that way at most places.
     
    Moderator1, Jun 23, 2008
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  2. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    1. Depends on the state. If you're in an at-will state, you're screwed.
    2. An employer could give whatever reason they chose and it's very hard to prove wrongful termination.
     
    forever_town, Jun 23, 2008
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  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Well, I'll say it again: I've been lucky. Only bosses I had were people I'd kill for and I damn sure shot straight the few times I was looking. And I tried to be that kind of boss. Got blind-sided once and I didn't like it much. Everyone else was upfront with me.
     
    Moderator1, Jun 23, 2008
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  4. thegrifter

    thegrifter Member

    Yeah, but not every boss is like that. Like any profession, there are some real dicks out there. And being upfront doesn't mean shit to them.
    I gotta agree with FR. This is a case-by-case basis.
    Most bosses I've had were real cool with me looking, and offered to help in any way they could. But there was one or two who made my life hell just because i was interested in an opening.
     
    thegrifter, Jun 23, 2008
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  5. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I got fired for it once. Found a much better job though, and less than two years later I'm doing even better than that, and making more than double what I was making at the old place. And I'll never, ever, ever let a boss know I'm looking until I'm offered the job and putting in my notice. And I'd say the same thing to anyone else looking. While waiting to hear about my current job, I was paranoid about it in fact.
     
    Flying Headbutt, Jun 23, 2008
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  6. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    When I was interviewing for a job, the people I interviewed with called my then-current job while I was there and I heard my supervisor talking to them about me. That was nervewracking.

    He was cool about it, but I was nervous as fuck.
     
    forever_town, Jun 23, 2008
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  7. SportsDude

    SportsDude Active Member

    I wouldn't tell them shit. When was the last time as boss gave you advance notice you were being laid off?

    We had two people leave at the same time a couple years ago. The second person announced, so the ME went to tell the publisher. She got all vindictive and wanted to fire him on the spot, I can just imagine what she would have done if he was out looking.

    Anyone with half a brain would keep it to themselves, and I wouldn't work for a place that was stupid enough to call your current employer unless they were on the reference list or had permission.
     
    SportsDude, Jun 23, 2008
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  8. thegrifter

    thegrifter Member

    I had someone ask me if my boss knew I was there interviewing. They wanted to know if it was ok to call my boss for a reference.
    And I had no problem telling them no to both questions.
     
    thegrifter, Jun 23, 2008
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  9. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    If I can't talk to your current boss, I'm not about to hire you.
    If you are going around the back of your current boss, you will go around the back of me.
    Sorry, you are most likely a fine person and very qualified. But that's the way bosses think.
    Be upfront. That I can trust them is something I value greatly in an employee.
     
    Moderator1, Jun 23, 2008
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  10. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

    Screw it. In this economy, I'd hope for the wrongful termination. Get the best damn lawyer available and wish for the best.
     
    mustangj17, Jun 23, 2008
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  11. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    There is something called the "hostile reference."

    I've used that before, especially when it's been the truth.
     
    forever_town, Jun 23, 2008
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  12. thegrifter

    thegrifter Member

    Moddy, I get what you're saying, but like I said, it depends on the boss.
    I had some bosses that I would go to war for. But then others, the screamers who degrade people to get their point across, they can go fuck themselves.
    This boss was of the go fuck yourself variety.
     
    thegrifter, Jun 23, 2008
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