The Soccer thread (Part II)

Inky_Wretch · May 29, 2008

GB-Hack said:

Inky_Wretch said:

And ESPN adds Andy Gray for Euro 2008 ...

http://awfulannouncing.blogspot.com/2008/05/your-espnabc-commentators-for-euro-2008.html
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I'm assuming that's crazy Scotsman Andy Gray, of Sky Sports fame.
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Yep, better known to most Americans as "Andy Gray, that Scottish dude who does commentary on all the EA Sports soccer games."

GB-Hack · May 30, 2008

On the heels of their agreement with MLS, Barcelona will play Chivas Guadalajara in Chicago and Red Bull New York at the Meadowlands in a preseason tour. Get your tickets now Pastor!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/05/30/bc.soc.mls.redbulls.fcb.ap/index.html

Pastor · May 30, 2008

GB-Hack said:

On the heels of their agreement with MLS, Barcelona will play Chivas Guadalajara in Chicago and Red Bull New York at the Meadowlands in a preseason tour. Get your tickets now Pastor!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/05/30/bc.soc.mls.redbulls.fcb.ap/index.html
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I received tickets for this game with my season tickets. August 6th isthe date.

I don't like that it is a Wednesday, but I do like the possibility of flipping them.

Beaker · May 30, 2008

Anbody have any ideas where Michael Bradley will end up? And does anybody think Altidore or any other young U.S. players will move this summer?

Inky_Wretch · May 30, 2008

Pastor's man Ives reports this is the roster for USMNT v. Spain ...

GOALKEEPERS- Dominic Cervi (out of contract), Brad Guzan (Chivas USA), Tim Howard (Everton FC)

DEFENDERS- Carlos Bocanegra (out of contract), Dan Califf (FC Midtjylland), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover 96), Jay DeMerit (Watford FC), Frankie Hejduk (Columbus Crew), Oguchi Onyewu (Standard de Liege), Michael Orozco (San Luis), Heath Pearce (Hansa Rostock), Jonathan Spector (West Ham United)

MIDFIELDERS- Freddy Adu (SL Benfica), DaMarcus Beasley (Glasgow Rangers), Michael Bradley (SC Heerenveen), Ricardo Clark (Houston Dynamo), Maurice Edu (Toronto FC), Eddie Lewis (Derby County), Pablo Mastroeni (Colorado Rapids)

FORWARDS- Clint Dempsey (Fulham FC), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles Galaxy), Nate Jaqua (out of contract), Eddie Johnson (Fulham FC), Josh Wolff (out of contract)

Pastor · May 30, 2008

Beasley's inclusion in the roster against Spain makes it increasingly unlikely that he'll be drinking with me next week.

I am saddened by this news.

Beaker said:

Anbody have any ideas where Michael Bradley will end up? And does anybody think Altidore or any other young U.S. players will move this summer?
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There has been some interest in England, but it is undetermined exactly which team will buy out his rights.

I just wish his father would play him in a more attacking role to see what he can do.

Rick Von Sloneker · May 30, 2008

Beaker said:

Anbody have any ideas where Michael Bradley will end up? And does anybody think Altidore or any other young U.S. players will move this summer?
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there's been lots of everton talk.

GB-Hack · May 30, 2008

Pastor said:

Beaker said:

Anbody have any ideas where Michael Bradley will end up? And does anybody think Altidore or any other young U.S. players will move this summer?
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There has been some interest in England, but it is undetermined exactly which team will buy out his rights.

I just wish his father would play him in a more attacking role to see what he can do.

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The word I heard on Bradley was Everton was looking to bring him in to boost their midfield. If Gareth Barry ends up at Liverpool, Aston Villa might also be a candidate to swoop in for him.

Pastor · May 30, 2008

I am curious to see how the new FIFA ruling affects all this transfer talk...

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - Franz Beckenbaeur was passionate about it and Michel Platini toed the party line.

Soccer's world governing body voted overwhelmingly Friday to pursue a "6+5" rule that restricts the number of foreign players to five in a club's starting lineup in domestic leagues, despite it contravening European law on freedom of movement for workers.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter was bullish about the rule being implemented, and enlisted the help of two of the game's greats before his '6+5' resolution was put to the ballot here at the 58th congress.

German legend Beckenbauer, chairman of FIFA's football committee, talked about the need to restore the national identity in European leagues where some teams were devoid of native players.

Platini, the former France great, was between a rock and hard place as head of the European confederation, but supportive of the thrust of the rule change.

Blatter's proposal was supported by 155 delegates, with five against and 40 abstaining. Despite the overwhelming support for the objectives of the rule, few of FIFA's European delegates expect it to be implemented without a fight.

But most debate centered on the "6+5" rule, which Blatter said is designed to protect the national identity of clubs, stop the player drain from Africa and South America, ensure more development of home-grown talent, and slow the growing imbalance between national leagues.

He highlighted the English Premier League, where of 471 first-team players, 280 - or almost 60 percent - were not eligible to play for England.

Blatter proposed a stepped introduction, with a 4+7 rule in place by 2010, 5+6 in 2011 and the 6+5 in 2012.
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GB-Hack · May 30, 2008

Pastor said:

I am curious to see how the new FIFA ruling affects all this transfer talk...

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - Franz Beckenbaeur was passionate about it and Michel Platini toed the party line.

Soccer's world governing body voted overwhelmingly Friday to pursue a "6+5" rule that restricts the number of foreign players to five in a club's starting lineup in domestic leagues, despite it contravening European law on freedom of movement for workers.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter was bullish about the rule being implemented, and enlisted the help of two of the game's greats before his '6+5' resolution was put to the ballot here at the 58th congress.

German legend Beckenbauer, chairman of FIFA's football committee, talked about the need to restore the national identity in European leagues where some teams were devoid of native players.

Platini, the former France great, was between a rock and hard place as head of the European confederation, but supportive of the thrust of the rule change.

Blatter's proposal was supported by 155 delegates, with five against and 40 abstaining. Despite the overwhelming support for the objectives of the rule, few of FIFA's European delegates expect it to be implemented without a fight.

But most debate centered on the "6+5" rule, which Blatter said is designed to protect the national identity of clubs, stop the player drain from Africa and South America, ensure more development of home-grown talent, and slow the growing imbalance between national leagues.

He highlighted the English Premier League, where of 471 first-team players, 280 - or almost 60 percent - were not eligible to play for England.

Blatter proposed a stepped introduction, with a 4+7 rule in place by 2010, 5+6 in 2011 and the 6+5 in 2012.
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It won't. The European Union has already said it won't allow it to happen since it would be a restraint of trade for all European players.

They might get it for the African and South American players in European leagues, but you're still going to see Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United, Real Madrid, Barcelona et al. starting a ton of Euros that aren't natives.

deskslave · May 30, 2008

GB-Hack said:

Pastor said:

I am curious to see how the new FIFA ruling affects all this transfer talk...

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) - Franz Beckenbaeur was passionate about it and Michel Platini toed the party line.

Soccer's world governing body voted overwhelmingly Friday to pursue a "6+5" rule that restricts the number of foreign players to five in a club's starting lineup in domestic leagues, despite it contravening European law on freedom of movement for workers.

FIFA president Sepp Blatter was bullish about the rule being implemented, and enlisted the help of two of the game's greats before his '6+5' resolution was put to the ballot here at the 58th congress.

German legend Beckenbauer, chairman of FIFA's football committee, talked about the need to restore the national identity in European leagues where some teams were devoid of native players.

Platini, the former France great, was between a rock and hard place as head of the European confederation, but supportive of the thrust of the rule change.

Blatter's proposal was supported by 155 delegates, with five against and 40 abstaining. Despite the overwhelming support for the objectives of the rule, few of FIFA's European delegates expect it to be implemented without a fight.

But most debate centered on the "6+5" rule, which Blatter said is designed to protect the national identity of clubs, stop the player drain from Africa and South America, ensure more development of home-grown talent, and slow the growing imbalance between national leagues.

He highlighted the English Premier League, where of 471 first-team players, 280 - or almost 60 percent - were not eligible to play for England.

Blatter proposed a stepped introduction, with a 4+7 rule in place by 2010, 5+6 in 2011 and the 6+5 in 2012.
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It won't. The European Union has already said it won't allow it to happen since it would be a restraint of trade for all European players.

They might get it for the African and South American players in European leagues, but you're still going to see Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United, Real Madrid, Barcelona et al. starting a ton of Euros that aren't natives.

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And that's exactly the problem. In the EU, there effectively are no nationalities, at least not in the bigger countries. There are still limits on some of the newer EU countries, but in most of the EU, citizens have the right to work wherever they want. As you said, they could do it with Africa and South America, but they ain't gonna get away with it otherwise.

They might be able to do what the Champions League does with homegrown players, but that's for the entire squad of 25. There's no limits on who you can play in the games themselves.

At least that's my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.

GB-Hack · May 31, 2008

England's named its captain for Sunday's game with Trinidad and Tobago.

Mr. David Beckham.

I thank you.

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