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Things we should do away with

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Killick, May 15, 2011.

  1. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Skinny jeans, for men and women.
     
  2. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    NBA timeouts in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime. You can have only one of these:

    A 20-second timeout to set up a play but you can't move the ball to the front court.
    Move the ball into the front court, but you inbound immediately. No setting up a play.

    And you're capped at one such timeout situation in the last two minutes.
     
  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    In the NFL, fumbles that are overturned on instant replay because the ref's whistle blew before the knee hit the ground.

    If it happens more than once to a ref, fire him, because he obviously is blowing the whistle too soon.
     
  4. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member

    Did your professor advocate that all rules of German grammar, syntax and use be applied to English, or just this one?
     
  5. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    Artie Lang

    Jeffrey Ross

    Sarah Sliverman

    Rosie O'Donnell

    Joy Behar

    Dr. Drew

    Dr. Phil

    Oprah (oh, wait.....She's leaving on her own [almost(OWN)].

    Adam Corolla

    Any & all "morning zoo"-type local radio shows
     
  6. ShiptoShore

    ShiptoShore Member

    Celebrities taking spots in Nationwide Tour events over guys who live out of their cars and need to make a cut so they can pay for their McChicken sandwiches.
     
  7. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    ESPN's "Pardon The Interruption" (Or as I like to call it, "Pardon The Idiocy").
     
  8. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    I actually still like watching it. That and live events are all I tune in to ESPN for these days.
     
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    It was a specific discussion of this rule. Somebody asked him about it and he gave his opinion. It was part of an overall theme of understanding that language is not a static thing. It grows and changes over time. English is obviously more stable now than it was centuries ago because the written and spoken word are recorded in so many ways, but we still have new words or new ways of using old words coming into common usage.

    Point being, it's not just a willingness to change. It is understanding the nature of language well enought o know that it is going to change whether we like it or not.
     
  10. Mark McGwire

    Mark McGwire Member

    Well, right, generally. Which is why the other argument being made here -- not by you, I understand -- that prepositions don't require objects because old English has its syntactical roots in German is sort of silly, given that the Norman Invasion happened in 1066 and English took on most of the grammatical rules of French from there on... But I digress.

    Let's just say there is no rule against ending a sentence with prepositions. Throw it out. You'd still have a rule that says prepositions must have objects. A rule you'd break if you ended a sentence with a preposition.

    So you reclassify those prepositions as some kind of phrasal verb, the grammar equivalent of the NBA's continuation rule. You'd be wrong, but at least it's a plausible argument. You'd say, for instance:

    Boys of Summer by Don Henley is my favorite song to listen to.

    Your argument is gonna be that "to listen to" is not really a prepositional mishmash, but a helper verb-phrase for your weak verb "is".

    But Buck and other right-thinking people are going to come back and say that the sentence is stronger without such piddle.

    Boys of Summer by Don Henley is my favorite song.

    That's better, and shorter, too.

    Boys of Summer by Don Henley remains my favorite song.

    That's better still, cause it drops the lameass "to be" verb.

    So even if you throw all logic out the window and prove your case for getting rid of this rule, you're still gonna be left with the truth that the sentence can be written better without a dangling preposition. So even if you get rid of the "rule" it's going to remain a "rule" of good writing.

    So we might as well stick with the rule.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    One of my college professors said there was one allowable exception to the rules of English grammar, the sentence, "Lay lady lay."

    Because the author of the line was, well, above grammatical rules.
     
  12. Mark McGwire

    Mark McGwire Member

    That professor I would hang out with.







    Someone will get that. I just know it.
     
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