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Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Slacker, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Atheism is a rejection of the assertion that gods exist, which really doesn't fit your claim at all.

    What you are talking about sounds more like an agnostic.
     
  2. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    but god had itself born into humanity. Cured a few people brought back 1 from the dead. Allowed himself to be killed just to out of here and never returned to heal anyone else, ever again. Heal humans of the diseases god created. We are either exactly where god wants us to be, doing exactly what god wants us to do, or there is no sentient deity. Never has been. God therefore is the sum total of everything but without will or conscience or consciousness or thought. A cosmic involuntary reflex, the sum total of everything. Therefore, god, the sum, is less than the parts. Praying to it, thanking it, and asking for answers or help is not only futile gesture, and the gesture of a literal imbecile, but counterproductive
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    It’s a rejection in lieu of proof.

    Absent the proof aspect, we’re in flat earth, fingers-in-the-ears territory, or it’s just troll - who usually lives in the “West” - trying to rile up believers. I’ve been anong the latter company often enough. Mostly, their beef is with Christians. You don’t hear a lot of “aw, this Hinduism is a sack of crap.”
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That is because we are in a country dominated by Christians. If Hinduism were exerting the influence it does over the US that Christiantity does, they'd say, "Aw this Hinduism is a sack of crap."
     
  5. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    In every other aspect of life, the proof part is pretty darned important.

    People being incapable of providing proof to back up their heart-felt beliefs does not make those beliefs more valid.
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Why would atheist, who rejects all gods, be hung up on the predominant religious culture?

    There are 2.4 million Hindus in America, by the way. That ain't nothin.
     
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  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Anything is better than the religions founded upon Jesus of Nazareth, as presently practiced in the United States of America and had been practiced in Europe for the last 1700 years.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I didn't say it wasn't.

    But atheism is a rejection due to lack of proof, as defined by the atheist.

    Back to proof - how do we prove what's good and what's evil?
     
  9. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    Ethics
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    An atheist would reject all religions.

    One might find Christianity particularly annoying in the US, though, because Christians are dominant here and their sheer numbers give them influence that allows them to inject things related to their religious beliefs over all aspects of society.
     
  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    They'd have to know what all the religions were to reject them, wouldn't they?

    Otherwise, it's like looking for candles in the housewares part of the store, not finding them there, and assuming they can't be anywhere else in the store.
     
  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    How do we figure out what good ethics and bad ethics are?
     
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