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Tiger Woods in Car Accident

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by taller hack, Nov 27, 2009.

  1. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    "I'm not here to talk about the past," is also a response that generally wins people over. ;D
     
  2. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    And I agree that the crash was news. But what happened from there was all speculation -- and yes, had Tiger and his "handlers" done a better job at managing the situation then, it might not have come to this.

    But it doesn't change the fact that it's stupid. It comes out because the National Enquirer pays some woman a lot of money to spill what she knows. Then US Weekly, or some other smut garbage magazine, pays another woman a lot of money to do the same. We forget the fact that this woman saved these voicemails (yeah, she wasn't looking for a payday down the road...). Forget the fact that we've now plastered the faces of two women on magazine covers, news sites and TV programs, and at least one of them apparently feels no shame in being known as "the girl who had an affair with Tiger Woods." Isn't there something inherently sad about that?

    My point is that I don't think it's any of our business. As wrong as Tiger is for carrying on a 31-month affair, he's right about one thing: some things belong in private, and as famous as many of these athletes are, some lines shouldn't be crossed when it comes to their privacy. This isn't a Kobe Bryant situation, where Tiger Woods was charged with rape and ended up in court for it. This isn't a Travis Henry situation, where Tiger Woods had kids with 11 different women and wasn't paying child support despite making millions of dollars a year. This is a simple affair, a purely personal matter, and one that Woods at least claims he is dealing with inside the family.

    It has nothing to do with going against an image he's worked hard to create. It has nothing to do with endorsements or golf or anything of that ilk (as we've seen, Nike, Gatorade and Gillette obviously couldn't care less about this whole deal). It's the simple fact that no matter how famous some of these people are, no matter how good they are at their chosen craft, there are some lines of privacy that shouldn't be crossed. Yet, the crossing of those lines is the norm in our media today. And then you get people like Rick Reilly getting on a soapbox, using this to tell Tiger he needs to grow up in each and every way, as if grown men haven't had affairs. And that's ridiculous.

    I'm not excusing Tiger's behavior. But forgive me if I'm not up in arms over it. Tiger Woods doesn't owe me, or anyone else, a damn thing. For people, particularly those in the media, to act like he does is ridiculous.

    PS: Just so we're clear, I've got no problem with people here speculating about it or talking about it. That's what Web sites like this one are for. But I think it's ridiculous that this has evolved into the national media shitstorm that it has become.
     
  3. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    Jesus Christ. From reading that, you'd think somebody was murdered on the property.

    For what it's worth, I don't think Whitlock is right that the media has a vendetta out against Tiger Woods. But I don't think he's totally wrong in that the media reaction to this whole deal has been pretty ridiculous.
     
  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Oh it's been quite ridiculous. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't amused as well.

    And while in reality I don't give a shit who he's banging, the fact is when you create an image about yourself that says "this is who I am" and you make an absurdly high amount of money off of it, you shouldn't be surprised that people overreact when you end up not being the person you've always claimed to be.
     
  5. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    But when has Woods claimed to be anything? (I'm not saying he hasn't, he very well could have. I don't know). Other posts in this thread alluded to the fact that he's never really hidden the fact that he enjoys hitting Vegas, likes to have a drink or two every now and then, etc. I watch a lot of golf, and the impression I've always gotten from Tiger Woods is that he's an incredibly driven golfer. I've never really seen the "Tiger as a family man" side. Sure, Elin comes to the golf tournaments and Tiger talks about his daughter, but who doesn't?

    I think we get into the habit of molding these athletes to be the type of people we want them to be. We want Athlete A to be the perfect family man, the best father, the Good Samaritan, and when they fail, we act as if they've failed us. Sure, Tiger Woods has done his part by guarding his image in certain ways. But I don't think Tiger has ever been dishonest about who he is: he's a driven golfer who wants to break every record ever set. That's the impression I've gotten. Maybe I'm wrong.

    I just think from day one, this entire thing has been overblown to an absolutely ridiculous degree, and Sally Jenkins might be the perfect example of this. Tiger Woods didn't receive any special treatment in this case. You or I would have gotten a citation for the fire hydrant, and that would have been it. If anything, his fame has brought him and his family more punishment (albeit not legal) than a normal person would have undergone.
     
  6. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Yeah it may be overblown. But he makes money from his greatness as an athlete and his image and it takes both to be a commercial/pop culture star. I don't think he claimed to be Ganhdi but when you get endorsements there is an understanding that you represent whatever those companies represent. Mike Tyson at one time was one of the most recognized athletes in the world but his outside the ring behavior was well publicized and I can't remember him in one commercial. I'm not an ad exec but I think a basic rule is don't cause a controversy or create a scene with anything in your private life.
     
  7. Crash

    Crash Active Member

    Nike: "Our relationship will not change."

    Gatorade: "We will maintain our relationship."

    Gillette: "We do not plan to change our strategy."

    How much do those companies care about this again?
     
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    It ain't over yet.
     
  9. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    who knows? you think they said great job Tiger?
    it would be a pretty drastic step for them to break off a deal over this, but
    i really don't think they're advising him to make a habit of having his slam pieces
    reveal voicemails to the tabloids and having him get lumped up by his wife.


    edit: voicemails, sted emails
     
  10. ifilus

    ifilus Well-Known Member

    Tiger Woods' alleged mistress claims she was lying when she said she did not have an affair with Tiger Woods ... and sources tell TMZ the fight at Tiger's home the morning of the crash was triggered by a series of text messages between Tiger and the woman.

    Rachel Uchitel has publicly denied she had sexual relations with Tiger Woods, but we've learned she has said she did indeed have an affair with the golfer. And, we're told it was her -- not Jaimee Grubbs -- who caused an argument between Tiger and his wife, Elin Nordegren, that immediately preceded Tiger's SUV crash.

    Sources say less than an hour before Tiger's accident, Rachel and Tiger were texting each other. Elin confronted Tiger and asked whom he was texting. She grabbed the phone and we're told she called Rachel to confront her. According to sources, Tiger and Elin began arguing and the phone broke in the process.

    We're also told there was damage as a result of the altercation in the vestibule area of Tiger's home -- damage that cannot be easily repaired, and that is why Tiger would not let police come in.

    Uchitel's lawyer, Gloria Allred, will hold a news conference today at 11:30 AM PT with Uchitel present. We will be live streaming the event.

    http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0YbooYyQM
     
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Oh, and the driver's side door is apparently was able to be opened (see Smoking Gun photos). In fact, it doesn't appear to be damaged at all. In fact, there seems to be no damage around the driver's seat at all.
     
  12. DisembodiedOwlHead

    DisembodiedOwlHead Active Member

    I see Crash has joined Tool Academy and Party Girl Uchitel in the line to suck Tiger's cock.
     
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