1. Welcome to SportsJournalists.com, a friendly forum for discussing all things sports and journalism.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register for a free account to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Access to private conversations with other members.
    • Fewer ads.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Tiger Woods Return

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Chef2, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Like just about every other golf improvement technique ever invented, getting a new caddie works great for some golfers -- for awhile. Then they have to find another technique.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    +1.
     
  3. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    I'm sure Stevie was sweating out whether to apply for government cheese or looking to find the nearest bread line.

    No income for two years? Did Valvoline stop paying him?
     
  4. TwoGloves

    TwoGloves Well-Known Member

    You sure Tiger wasn't paying him? Or is that just a theory?
     
  5. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    You're bagging on the guy because he wanted to work? Doesn't matter whether he had money saved or not.

    Guy worked for Tiger for years, did the party line and played dumb while his boss was being a jerk, essentially sat out for two years and then got fired for finding work while his primary "employer" was disabled.

    And it seems as if a new caddy is working great for Adam Scott, and that's what matters, since Scott is the one employing him.
     
  6. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    I am not bagging on him for wanting to work. You made the comment that he didn't have income for two years without any knowledge of the contract. Everyone assumes he made 10% off of Tiger's winnings. If Tiger is as cheap as his reputation Stevie probably had a fixed contract with a bonus and was paid over the two year span.

    If Stevie wanted to find other work he should have resigned. If Scott sucked balls, he would have went back to Tiger. He wanted it both ways.
     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Yeah, a caddie change in golf seems to be about the equivalent of a players-only meeting in the NFL.
     
  8. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I don't know his contract but standard in the industry is only $$ if you work, plus percentage of winnings. Read a while back that Tiger felt that since he won so much (and he did, nearly 30-40% at one time) he lowered the payout. Nevertheless, Williams raked it in, no doubt. But the past two years, Tiger won..um nothing, barely played, and did not score much $ at the finishes either. Which means, very high probability that Williams was not getting $$ at all.

    Knowing how stingy Tiger was/is, very hard to see him guaranteeing Williams anything; very likely he was thinking, "I don't get paid, you don't get paid."
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I haven't followed this as closely as some of you.

    Has it come out that Tiger fired Williams for working while Tiger was off the tour?
     
  10. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    Just for the record, Tiger won $1.29 million on the PGA Tour last year, which doesn't include his overseas performances. 72nd on the PGA. In 12 events. So 12 weeks of work, Williams made over $100,000. That left him 40 weeks of work where he could pick up some housepainting jobs so he could pay the bills.

    This year, yeah, hasn't been much work - although he's still won $620,000. But last year, I think Williams was doing all right. Whatever he made, hardly qualified as nothing.

    Fire away, Stev(i)e. He has every right to do that, just like Tiger had every right to dump him. But let's not make it sound like he made no money last year, or even this year.
     
  11. BurnsWhenIPee

    BurnsWhenIPee Well-Known Member

    I think that's what Williams is claiming, but Tiger's people are disputing that is the reason.

    Also, I thought I read where, following the Open when Tiger won at Torrey Pines and then had his knee surgery, that Tiger was paying Williams a set salary before the percent of winnings, whether he was playing or not. I don't know if it started then or was like that the entire time they were together (or even if that is true in the first place), but I find it hard to believe that Williams would be loyal enough to sit there and be fine with Woods taking months and months off at a time (whether by injury, scandal, whatever) and sit idly by without being paid by him and without looking for other bags to carry.
     
  12. TwoGloves

    TwoGloves Well-Known Member

    Is anyone else shocked Mickelson didn't immediately fire his caddie and hire a sweetheart like STEVIE? Williams should thank his God every night that Tiger's success means he and his kid won't have to worry about money again for the rest of their lives (unless STEVIE is a moron with his money).
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page