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Time To Disband Auto Workers Union

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Boom_70, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    The crappy UAW-built cars are designed by non-UAW engineers and green-lighted by non-UAW millionaires.

    And yet Boom's POS Hummer's many faults are those of the UAW.

    Go figure.
     
  2. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    "In an ideal world, America would join the overwhelming majority of developed countries and hammer out some kind of national health care system."

    Yes, disbanding the UAW would solve everything... ???

    The problem of American auto makers has been that their managers sat on their asses back when they were the Big 3, and didn't take seriously the threats that were being made by advancement in Japanese production standards and TQM. Thus, the foreigners began making better cars more efficiently while the American autos did nothing. Now, because sales and revenue are not what they projected, they blame the UAW for the burdensome costs.

    European autos have pretty strong unions - they make as much as twice the salary of a U.S. auto worker - and you don't hear the same type of stuff their because their engineering has kept pace with the Japanese and they still make a better product.
     
  3. steveu

    steveu Well-Known Member

    In an ideal world... nice to see the Times promoting its idea of socialism as always. ::) Hey Times, you may want to check with our neighbors to the north about this, as that health-care system isn't as easy as you might think.

    I say this with my late uncle having been a union member... sure, it's time to act. Disband the UAW? Naa, that's going too far, but today's unions have to recognize concessions are the order.
     
  4. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Universal health care is socialism?

    And despite some flaws--most of them involving funding squabbless between the feds and the provinces--our health care system works fine, despite what the AMA might think. And it's cheaper.
     
  5. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    People really expect our government to handle and manage a universal health care system? Yeah, right.

    What a joke. The mismanagement, inefficiency and corruption would be mind-boggling. The FEMA boondoggle times 1,000,000.

    Get this thru your heads, people: Our government can do nothing right. Nothing. Quit relying on them.
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    As usual, attack the workers.

    Outlaw all unions, that'll fix everything. [/slobbering neocons]
     
  7. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    Medicare is a very efficiently ran organization.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    LOL

    Good one.
     
  9. OTD

    OTD Well-Known Member

    Medicare's running fine--try prying that card out of my 94-year-old diehard Republican grandfather's hands. The plan has very low overhead--unlike most insurance companies. The new drug benefit's a fuckup, but that's because it's designed to benefit drug companies, not seniors.
     
  10. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    Nice to hear from Mr Public Policy.

    Get this through YOUR head: universal health care works fine--not perfectly, but fine-- in every civilized western country. And it's still cheaper than your "free enterprise" model.
     
  11. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Hey Canucklehead.... I'm pretty sure Poin was arguing that the US government would find a way to screw it up. Just because other western governments can do it right doens't mean this one can. This one is much bigger. Much more bureaucratic, and much more prone to getting shit wrong.
     
  12. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I'll dumb it down for Mr. Three Steps Behind:

    I don't doubt that other countries can do it. I have every doubt that the American government, which can fuck up every single thing except political fundraising, could do it well.
     
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