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Tony Dungy woudn't want to "deal with" Michael Sam

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Yeah because a draft kiss otherwise would have created no news

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rirsA8YaM

    or this
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  2. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    I don't think that's fair. Couldn't the mentoring be his way, however small, of atoning for the mistakes he made with his own son?
     
  3. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    THat's not hypocrisy, that's guilt. Hypocrisy would be if he got involved in the lives of his players but ignored his own family.
     
  4. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    ESPN doesn't have it on the front of the main page or the NFL page.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I don't know, man.

    Do you have kids?

    I do. They are still little, thank God. I'm raising them the best I can. But even if they both graduate from Stanford and cure cancer, as a team, I'll still never cast aspersions on other parents based upon how their children turn out. And certainly not without incomplete information.

    Truthfully, I have no clue if I'm doing it right. I'm trying. But I don't know.
     
  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    This is unbelievably heartless and stupid.

    People live with regret all the time. Some become activists out of it. You might as well walk into a suicide-prevention or MADD meeting and tell those moms to go home because they failed their own children so they should just crawl into a hole.

    Really this is a terrible post.
     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I took the statement to mean that when he talked to the reporter, the Oprah show was still a live concern. So "will be" fits that context.
     
  8. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    So if a player kisses his girlfriend or wife, that's exploiting their situation too?
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    It wasn't a reality show as much as it was a documentary on his "journey."

    The Rams were not upset because it would be produced or be a distraction, because film crews not only were barred from the team's facilities, but the crews themselves said that kind of access was unnecessary and intrusive.

    The Rams were upset because Sam hid it from them, and everyone else, until after he was drafted.

    To his credit, Dungy said the same thing about distractions then.

    In doing so, both then and now, he cedes any moral high ground he might've sought.
     
  10. BNWriter

    BNWriter Active Member

    Before folks here think I am a little behind, this was my take on the situation that I posted to my friend's Facebook page:

    One other aspect of this situation that bothered me was the SLANT given this story by The Sporting News and CBSSports.com.

    I looked at both Sporting News & CBS Sports to get INFORMATION here. We all kind of know how Dungy is supportive of groups like Indiana Family Institute et al. But when I read both CBS' and Sporting News' accounts of why Dungy would not want Sam were he still in coaching, I could not believe the lack of neutrality in the reporting.

    Now before those of you start with the "what did you expect, BNWriter?" comments, I will say I am not a Dungy fan and haven't been since he hooked up with Indiana Family Institute, especially after his son's death while he was still in coaching. That is a discussion (tirade?) for another time.

    But I expected better of CBS Sports and The Sporting News. I would have thought they would have, you should excuse the expression, played it straight with Dungy's comments and why he feels that way (even if most of us have a fairly good idea why he does).

    And yes, this is a conservative vs. liberal topic, and yes, I would normally probably side with editors. But this was out of bounds, folks. Way out of bounds.

    If anybody finds an OBJECTIVE piece on this topic, please point it out. Because the two I cited at the top of this post aren't it.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Lombardi used to tell his team that if he ever heard a slur from anyone regarding race, religion or ethnicity, he would cut them right away. That is called eliminating distractions.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Here's ESPN The Mag's entry into The Michael Sam story - A history of
    showers in pro sports:
    http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11169006/nfl-showers-hostile-environment-michael-sam-espn-magazine
    When former NFL cornerback Wade Davis, the executive director of the LGBT athletes' advocacy group You Can Play, speaks to teams about tolerance inside the locker room, he uses this very reference to break the ice: "Let's just stop with this idea that 'Oh, gay guys are looking at everyone's penises,' because you straight guys -- admit it -- you all know you're looking too," he tells his audience. This is invariably followed by tense moments of silence and sideways glances until the room busts out in laughter. "Then," Davis says, "all the inside shower jokes break out."

    The team shower, in fact, is one of the few places in our culture where men objectify each other in the cruel manner normally reserved for women. One former Tennessee Titan was so poorly endowed that every time he stepped into the shower, teammates would ask him, "Have you pissed on your balls today?" Well-endowed players (sometimes referred to as Hall of Fame members) get it even worse.

    "I'm in the shower the first day, and everyone's looking but not looking, ya know?" says an NFL linebacker. "I got my head down, washing my hair, and I look over to the side and I see, like, an extra limb flopping around. This was the biggest penis I have ever seen. I was like: 'Dude, what the f--- is that thing?' And he was so shy and reserved about it. He was like, 'Come on, man. Cool it.' That just made it worse. 'Donkey D--k' became a running thing on the team for years. It was like, 'Donkey, you gotta own that thing! If any of us had that, the whole world would know about it!'"
     
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