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Trent Green is out

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by HandsomeHarley, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. ChrisLittmann

    ChrisLittmann Member

    To quote Tom Jackson: Are you retarded?

    THAT WAS MY POINT!

    I don't blame Chiefs fans for wanting someone to blame, but Geathers didn't do anything that warrants a flag, fine or supsension.
     
  2. doubledown68

    doubledown68 Active Member

    Except for tattooing a sliding quarterback, of course.

    The situation's surrounding Palmer and Green are totally different. Apples to oranges. Peaches to grapes. Caddyshack to Caddyshack II
     
  3. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Another thing to consider. As soon as Green was hit, the ball came loose. Fumble? Why not? Oh, it's because Green was already down.
     
  4. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Again, how do you avoid making contact when you're already in the air, before the quarterback decided to slide? If you can answer that for me, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     
  5. doubledown68

    doubledown68 Active Member

    It's like talking to a sarcastic wall. YOU CAN'T HIT A SLIDING QUARTERBACK! It doesn't matter who committed when. Green was sliding, Geathers hit him. It was a bang-bang play. Doesn't matter. Sliding QB's are off limits. Green probably slid to avoid taking a hit... and then took one anyway. As you can see, the result wasn't good for Green. Which is why you can't hit a sliding quarterback. You can't hit a sliding quarterback. You can't hit a sliding quarterback. Quarterback slide = no hit.

    The fact he couldn't stop himself is irrelevant. It puts Geathers in a no-win situation, but that's how it goes in the hands-off world of the QB. If he slides, he can't be hit.

    Greatly appreciated or not, I can't write any plainer or simpler words.
     
  6. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    And it should be noted that I have heard only one Chiefs fan say it was a cheap hit. So Chiefs fans aren't "whining" but rather want to see due justice.

    And how come nobody wants to answer this: If it had been Brady or Manning that got hit, what would have happened? Let's see - Golden Boy quarterback gets popped like that at home by home team's bench. Penalty? Ejection? Fine? Suspension?

    The answer is E.) All of the above.
     
  7. joe king

    joe king Active Member

    Actually, the correct answer is F) How the hell do you know?
     
  8. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Right. Believe what you want. If you really think Brady or Manning took that hit and nothing would have happened, you are pretty ignorant.
     
  9. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Batch got hit last week on a hook slide, no flag there. Don't think Green is some exception here.

    Now, I really have to say this much -- after watching the play a couple times on DVR, I started to wonder whether I was on the wrong side of the fence. But I kept seeing Kennison's arms extended on that play, which would make it hard for me to think he didn't help push Geathers on that play. And that's why I still think the Bengals might have an argument that holds when the Chiefs take this up with the NFL.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Herman Edwards almost killed Trent Green in the first week
     
  11. HoopsMcCann

    HoopsMcCann Active Member

    after review, nfl says no foul:

    <blockquote>
    The NFL ruled Wednesday that Robert Geathers' hit on Chiefs quarterback Trent Green was not a foul because he did not have complete control of his body.

    "In other instances this contact might be illegal, since a defensive player has the responsibility to avoid unnecessary contact even when he is blocked by an opponent. However, in this case, the late slide and the block in the back were mitigating factors," NFL senior vice president of football operations Ray Anderson said in a statement.

    Green, 36, one of the oldest starting quarterbacks in the NFL, was going feet-first into a hook slide right in front of the Chiefs bench. The Bengals' Geathers, possibly pushed from behind at least somewhat by Kansas City wide receiver Eddie Kennison, came flying in. Geathers' right shoulder slammed Green's chest and head and snapped the back of Green's head violently to the turf.

    Officials did not call a foul, explaining to the enraged Chiefs sideline that Geathers' momentum had carried him into the player.

    "In my opinion, I think it was a late hit. I think it was obviously a very vicious hit,'' Chiefs president Carl Peterson said earlier this week, "one that unfortunately Trent Green and the Kansas City Chiefs are paying a price for."

    However, the NFL disagreed.

    The NFL concluded that Geathers was indeed blocked from behind and the Bengals defensive end even twisted his torso to avoid helmet-to-helmet contact.

    Anderson said quarterbacks who want to take advantage of the protection of a slide must start it before the prospect of imminent contact.

    He cited a play in the Seattle-Detroit game as an example of an illegal hit. In that case, Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck broke out of the pocket and began a slide. Lions rookie linebacker Ernie Sims, who had the opportunity to avoid contact, drove his helmet into Hasselbeck while another defender, Cory Redding, jumped over the quarterback.

    Sims drew a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness. Anderson said the play is being reviewed for a possible fine.

    Green spent two days in a Kansas City-area hospital for tests, but was released Tuesday. He's out for Sunday's game against the Broncos and a source close to the quarterback told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that he was likely to miss an additional game as well.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
    </blockquote>
     
  12. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Oh well. Justice in this country is rarely served any way. Here's hoping Trent Green - a truly outstanding person and one of the most underrated players in the game - gets back on the field as long as he's OK.
     
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