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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Last I checked, there was no religion requirement to be president in the Constitution. So why would it have mattered what his religion is or was?
     
  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Precisely. It might help if those who claim to know and love the Constitution would actually read it. This ain't a theocracy.
     
  3. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Waive the waiting period and send tbf's post to the HOF.
     
  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    So you're saying there's a mole in the GOP...
     
  5. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    "That's what evil people tell themselves when they do evil things." --- Betty Turner to Elizabeth Jennings right before Elizabeth killed her "to make the world a better place." (Season 3, Episode 9, The Americans)
     
  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, you could make the argument, but you would be hard-pressed to win the argument because it's nothing more than an absurd construct that was used to rationalize one of the low points in human history.
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    By all rational logic, Japan should have surrendered many months earlier.

    Even given the wartime fog-of-war and some understandable skewed perception, it was glaringly obvious for a year or more from their resource and manufacturing situations they were effectively doomed militarily.

    It was obvious that massive conventional bombing was
    not going to get them to quit, because even if we (the U.S.) mounted even larger attacks, the Japanese would regard them as "more of the same, but only with more bombs."

    At some point there had to be a game changer to convince them, "You need to quit -- right now."

    It wasn't really about revenge for Pearl Harbor, or punishment for the Rape of Nanking or the Bataan Death March or any other atrocities, although if they wanted to take it that way that was OK: it was delivering the message, "You need to quit this war, right now, today."
     
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  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    So was Germany.

    Just an amazing coincidence that in no other conflict in world history has a "game changer" been necessary. Not even one staged at the same time half a world away by a much more ruthless and determined foe.
     
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Oh hell, Starman, you're ignoring the fact that had the Allies dropped their insistence on unconditional surrender neither an invasion nor the bomb would have been necessary.

    I don't fall in with any "side" re: this, but let's not pretend that the U.S. faced an either/or conundrum.
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    If the bomb had been ready in time, Germany would have gotten it.
     
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