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I'm no Bush lover, but so what? People act like GWB created the problems in the Middle East. Those assholes have been squabbling over the same particles of sand for thousands of years. If we'd never invaded Iraq, what, the Middle East would be like Club Med right now or something? It's always been a shit show, devoid of our meddling, and it will continue to be a shit show bc you have entrenched people on both sides who use religion to justify their actions. ISIS, Sunni, Shiites, same shit, different story.

 

Clinton +6 in Florida, Clinton +4 in Rasmussen.

Thanks for the walkover, clowns. If it wasn't for gerrymandering, conservatism would have just about killed itself in America.

 

I was specifically responding to Tony's post where he claimed George Bush's actions had nothing to do with the creation of ISIS.

 

You guys nominated Donald Trump for president. Let that shit continue to sink in.

 

Bush and Co. didn't even know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites. That lack of knowledge and planning for the future is why the Middle East is even worse than the shitshow it was prior to the invasion.

You know, the whole "they will greet us as liberators!" Zero planning for the aftermath beyond staging a plane landing on an aircraft carrier.

 

Yes. #savedyouaclick

 

Dems love Gold Star moms -- as long as they're politically useful.

 

Breaking: some people who disagree with YF might be hypocritical sometimes. And he is very concerned.

 

Oh, well since we're playing that way .... Cons apparently never love Gold Star moms.

 

They're baiting him now:

Paul Ryan: My support for Donald Trump is not a "blank check" - CBS News

Hoping for a complete meltdown.

 

There are now three memoirs by members of GWB's cabinet that confirm that at the first cabinet meeting under him he was discussing going after Saddam Hussein. I get it, Saddam tried to assassinate GHW Bush. Saddam was a monster, and his being deposed and his death made the world a better place. Taking him out without a workable plan was dumb, and firing everyone who had a connection with the Baath party and putting thousands of trained soldiers on the street without the fear of Saddam to prevent factional violence. This is a root cause of many of the worst problems we have in the region.

Yes, the various religious factions and tribes have killed each other for hundreds of years and are unlikely to stop anytime in my lifetime. That does not mean that we did not exacerbate the problem.

How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS

 

To follow up on the pieces from 2012 and 2013 linked earlier, here are a couple from 2016.

Minnesota is so fucked, raised taxes and shit:

America's Top States for Business 2016: The full list

Fitch lifts Minnesota to top credit rating

Tim Pawlenty never would have let it come to this!

Mine the data for negatives to be found, but look at the overall picture. Where the state was, and where it is now.