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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Trump is not the cause; he is a symptom. What is happening to the GOP will be good in the long run. How long depends on just how commited the establishment is to ignoring reality.

    Democratic voters remain loyal to voting for whom the establishment tells them to vote for. That may work out well this year. But if Hillary Clinton is the best the party can do, the Dems will go through the same spasms eventually.
     
  2. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    If you gin up that ISIS is a threat to rural America, they'll give you a blank check.

    As for the tax cuts, everyone loves tax cuts. Heck, most income earners in the U.S. barely pay any federal income taxes. Keep those low and jack up their cigarette taxes. They'll never notice.

    Now they're voting trump. Damn.

    How Republican elites treat their low-income supporters isn't different than how Democrats have treated voters of color. Always for granted.
     
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  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


    If Cruz can be of any assistance with minimizing the damage that Trump is likely to cause, he will be of use to the Republican establishment no matter how much they hate him. Rubio has already become the establishment candidate by default. Trump winning is getting very real, and there's a scramble to do something, anything, to limit the damage to the greater party.
     
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  4. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    What makes you think that? Was Obama the establishment candidate?
     
  5. murphyc

    murphyc Well-Known Member

    I thought McCain was a good opponent for Obama and had the big experience and foreign policy advantage. He threw away that advantage by picking a VP with less experience than Obama. Even if Palin came across as a genius, it wouldn't make up for the lack of experience. I didn't think the GOP could screw up worse than that. Then in 2012 they run a rich white Mormon as the country is trying to climb out of a huge recession? Surely they can't top that, right? And then they did with this year's field. I mean, the Democrats are running Clinton with her high negative numbers and there will be plenty of people saying "Hey, at least she's the lesser of two evils here."
     
  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Why not? It worked so far.
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Hillary Clinton doesn't support intervention in the Middle East?
     
  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Buckley, the Reagan revolution and the National Review version of conservatism never really held that much sway among rank-and-file Republican voters. Their conservative vision was one where they got to keep their lives the way they wanted them - be it economically, socially or whatever. They only supported property rights, limited government, free enterprise and individualism because those seemed like traditional American ways of protecting their jobs, retirement plans and social mores.
     
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  9. Neutral Corner

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  10. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    The bump for Dems this year is just how scary the likes of Trump are. This may go beyond 2004's Kerry/Bush whose base will hold their nose harder.
    I think there were good nominees on the Democrat side who may have crushed Clinton, or at least put up a bit more legit fight than Bernie, but for one reason or another they chose not to jump in. Some people don't want to deal with the GOP ridiculousness. The Democrats will have a better chance at being fine over the long run through embracing minority voters and not being hijacked by the lunatic fringe.
     
  11. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Have to hand it to NC for being the poster who will regularly post "old" news like it just broke.
     
  12. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Guess McConnell & Co. don't like their work being outsourced.
     
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