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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Since no one has answered in the affirmative, I'm going to guess that none of you listen.

    Let's go through it a bit...

    Glenn Beck is incredibly hostile to Trump. In a major case of the pot calling the kettle black, he's called him a fraud, who is misleading his followers. (Says the guy who pitches gold, food insurance, safes, and other crap to his audience.) He's endorsed and campaigned for Cruz.

    Mark Levin has gone off the deep end in his criticism of trump ever since Trump started to criticize Cruz. (Until then, Levin was at least friendly to Trump.)

    Michael Medved is incredibly anti-Trump.

    Hugh Hewitt is extremely neutral. (Though critical of the #NeverTrump campaign.)

    Michael Gallagher too is most concerned with the party uniting behind whoever is the eventual nominee.

    Hannity and Rush are both friends of Trump, and have been friendly to him, without endorsing him, nor criticizing his rivals.

    While Hannity would likely blow Trump if asked, Rush has criticized Trump for some of his criticism of Cruz, and most of his "support" for Trump is actually criticism of the media's response to him.

    Rush supports Trump like Dick Whitman "supports" him.

    Laura Ingraham is probably the most prominent host that supports Trump -- and she's not that prominent -- but she supports both Trump and Cruz.

    Republican elites are attacking radio hosts because radio hosts aren't supporting their candidates, but radio hosts have not created Trump.
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Trump is Tebow. A guy with a couple of interesting skills but who lacks the broad ability to win in the long run. He's found himself in an improbable but temporary situation where his limited skill set affords him victories, and a coalition of partisans and the "winners win" crowd join up to argue that he's got some kind of magic formula that the experts didn't account for. Then the improbable circumstances inevitably fade out and he's exposed.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I take great offense to that.
     
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  4. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Yes, the process is not 100% democratic. Direct and full democracy is rare, and I would argue that it's rare for a good reason, but if anyone feels strongly about it, as long as they are consistent I respect that.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I predicted that neither Tim Tebow now Ray Rice would ever start another NFL game.
     
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  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Louie CK sends out an email every week to accompany the new episode of Horace and Pete. Today he called Trump Hitler.

    He writes ...

    This week begins act two. Our guest star is the terrific Hannah Dunne. I think doing this show is the most fun I've ever had.

    I'd like to also thank everyone in the rest of the world for supporting the show. The show is selling well in England, France, Germany, Denmark, Australia, India, Israel and more. I wish I had the resources to create a subtitled version of the show in every language but it's already a challenge to shoot the show and get it up on the site so quickly every week.

    Also, as the show is not being advertised and promoted anywhere, please share it with your friends and people you think would like it. Please don't show it to anyone you think would hate it. Although I do believe a show needs to be hated. It's part of the life of any show to have some people who devote energy to ripping it apart. It's healthy. Anyway it continues to be very interesting to watch a show spread and grow strictly on word of mouth. And you are the mouths. I mean your mouths are the mouths that... Make words. So please... Word... About it. The show.

    To other mouths. I mean don't talk into people's mouths though.

    Okay. I'm going back to bed. My kids don't get here for another hour.

    Thanks again.

    Louis CK

    P.S. Please stop it with voting for Trump. It was funny for a little while. But the guy is Hitler. And by that I mean that we are being Germany in the 30s. Do you think they saw the shit coming? Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.

    And I'm not advocating for Hillary or Bernie. I like them both but frankly I wish the next president was a conservative only because we had Obama for eight years and we need balance. And not because I particularly enjoy the conservative agenda. I just think the government should reflect the people. And we are about 40 percent conservative and 40 percent liberal. When I was growing up and when I was a younger man, liberals and conservatives were friends with differences. They weren’t enemies. And it always made sense that everyone gets a president they like for a while and then hates the president for a while. But it only works if the conservatives put up a good candidate. A good smart conservative to face the liberal candidate so they can have a good argument and the country can decide which way to go this time.

    Trump is not that. He's an insane bigot. He is dangerous.

    He already said he would expand libel laws to sue anyone who "writes a negative hit piece" about him. He says "I would open up the libel laws so we can sue them and win lots of money. Not like now. These guys are totally protected." He said that. He has promised to decimate the first amendment. (If you think he’s going to keep the second amendment intact you’re delusional.) And he said that Paul Ryan, speaker of the house will "pay" for criticizing him. So I'm saying this now because if he gets in there we won't be able to criticize him anymore.

    Please pick someone else. Like John Kasich. I mean that guy seems okay. I don't like any of them myself but if you're that kind of voter please go for a guy like that. It feels like between him and either democrat we'd have a decent choice. It feels like a healthier choice. We shouldn't have to vote for someone because they're not a shocking pussycat billionaire liar.

    We should choose based on what direction the country should go.

    I get that all these people sound like bullshit soft criminal opportunists. The whole game feels rigged and it's not going anywhere but down anymore. I feel that way sometimes.

    And that voting for Trump is a way of saying "fuck it. Fuck them all". I really get it. It's a version of national Suicide. Or it's like a big hit off of a crack pipe. Somehow we can't help it. Or we know that if we vote for Trump our phones will be a reliable source of dopamine for the next four years. I mean I can't wait to read about Trump every day. It's a rush. But you have to know this is not healthy.

    If you are a true conservative. Don't vote for Trump. He is not one of you. He is one of him. Everything you have heard him say that you liked, if you look hard enough you will see that he one day said the exact opposite. He is playing you.

    In fact, if you do vote for Trump, at least look at him very carefully first. You owe that to the rest of us. Know and understand who he is. Spend one hour on google and just read it all. I don’t mean listen to me or listen to liberals who put him down. Listen to your own people. Listen to John Mccain. Go look at what he just said about Trump. "At a time when our world has never been more complex or more in danger... I want Republican voters to pay close attention to what our party's most respected and knowledgeable leaders and national security experts are saying about Mr. Trump, and to think long and hard about who they want to be our next Commander-in-Chief and leader of the free world.”

    When Trump was told what he said, Trump said "Oh, he did? Well, that's not nice," he told CBS News' chief White House correspondent Major Garrett. "He has to be very careful."

    When pressed on why, Trump tacked on: "He'll find out.”

    (I cut and pasted that from CBS news)

    Do you really want a guy to be president who threatens John McCain? Because John McCain cautiously and intelligently asked for people to be thoughtful before voting for him? He didn’t even insult Trump. He just asked you to take a good look. And Trump told him to look out.

    Remember that Trump entered this race by saying that McCain is not a war hero. A guy who was shot down, body broken and kept in a POW camp for years. Trump said “I prefer the guys who don’t get caught.” Why did he say that? Not because he meant it or because it was important to say. He said it because he’s a bully and every bully knows that when you enter a new school yard, you go to the toughest most respected guy on the yard and you punch him in the nose. If you are still standing after, you’re the new boss. If Trump is president, he’s not going to change. He’s not going to do anything for you. He’s going to do everything for himself and leave you in the dust.

    So please listen to fellow conservatives. But more importantly, listen to Trump. Listen to all of it. Everything he says. If you liked when he said that “torture works” then go look at where he took it back the next day. He’s a fucking liar.

    A vote for Trump is so clearly a gut-vote, and again I get it. But add a little brain to it and look the guy up. Because if you vote for him because of how you feel right now, the minute he's president, you're going to regret it. You're going to regret it even more when he gives the job to his son. Because American democracy is broken enough that a guy like that could really fuck things up. That's how Hitler got there. He was voted into power by a fatigued nation and when he got inside, he did all his Hitler things and no one could stop him.

    Again, I’m not saying vote democrat or vote for anyone else. If Hilary ends up president it should be because she faced the best person you have and you and I both chose her or him or whoever. Trump is not your best. He’s the worst of all of us. He’s a symptom to a problem that is very real. But don’t vote for your own cancer. You’re better than that.

    That's just my view. At least right now. I know I’m not qualified or particularly educated and I'm not right instead of you. I’m an idiot and I'm sure a bunch of you are very annoyed by this. Fucking celebrity with an opinion. I swear this isn’t really a political opinion. You don’t want to know my political opinions. (And I know that I’m only bringing myself trouble with this shit.) Trump has nothing to do with politics or ideology. He has to do with himself. And really I don't mean to insult anyone. Except Trump. I mean to insult him very much. And really I’m not saying he’s evil or a monster. In fact I don’t think Hitler was. The problem with saying that guys like that are monsters is that we don’t see them coming when they turn out to be human, which they all are. Everyone is. Trump is a messed up guy with a hole in his heart that he tries to fill with money and attention. He can never ever have enough of either and he’ll never stop trying. He’s sick. Which makes him really really interesting. And he pulls you towards him which somehow feels good or fascinatingly bad. He’s not a monster. He’s a sad man. But all this makes him horribly dangerous if he becomes president. Give him another TV show. Let him pay to put his name on buildings. But please stop voting for him. And please watch Horace and Pete.
     
  7. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Is that any different than a know-nothing politician running because she assumes she deserves the presidency?
     
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  8. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Rant upcoming.

    What is it with the liberals' hard-on for John Kasich?
    Every liberal/Democrat analyzing the Republican primary season keeps coming back to "Kasich is the best choice," or "They should elect Kasich," or "It's a shame Kasich isn't getting more support."
    I guess he was a good governor in Ohio. Maybe he has some good ideas. But has the guy even cracked double digits in any poll since the campaign started? His whole strategy seems to be winning Ohio and hoping he can swing a back room deal to become the nominee. Whatever his message and ideas are, it's not getting through to voters and that's part of the weeding-out process.
    Meanwhile, all of the left-wingers -- people who would never vote for him in a general election anyway, no matter what they say -- keep trying to push him as a viable candidate.
    He's just not there. Let him go.
    And spare me the "well, we need a balance of ideas across the entire political spectrum to get the best president" speech, because it's bullshit. Kasich could run on a platform of free blow jobs and booze and the people I'm talking about would still vote for Hillary.
     
  9. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    What does dominating radio ratings have to do with the Republican popular vote? Do you not think Rush has been a dominant force in talk radio?
     
  10. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Tebow or Hitler? Among some around here, not sure which is more offensive. Also, anyone making Hitler references is too stupid to be taken seriously, especially since those are the same people whining about GOP "fear-mongering."
     
  11. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I'm not even talking about a direct democracy. I'm talking about full-of-shit politicians like, say, Mitch McConnell, who says "the American people should have a voice in picking the next Supreme Court justice, so we should wait until the next president takes office," when he really only means it if "the American people" do exactly what he and the party want.

    Politicians of all stripes pay lip service to a concept that doesn't exist. And voters allow themselves to get duped, over and over again, into thinking they matter.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    People want to appear non-partisan so they like to latch on to anyone on the other side that they can say they like. It's the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" argument.

    Kasich is Ted Cruz with the political sense to hide that he's Ted Cruz.
     
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