Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Yes please.

 

Just not in the realm of practical political possibility. At all.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/u...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Trump campaign's post-election plans: eviscerate Paul Ryan and rekindle the Freedom Caucus and other hardcore conservatives from Real America.

Sounds fun!

 

Ah, so "practical political possibility" is the standard we must meet. Fine. Now I won't be hearing "public option" or "single payer" bandied about 'round here.

 

The public option/single payer models actually work and have existing public and political support. There is discussion to be had. Your idea would be stillborn.

 

So would they.

 

The problem is straightforward and impossible to solve unless people in the health care industry (one of our biggest, BTW) are willing to take pay cuts, all of them. What we have now is sick people using the exchanges to get insurance they couldn't get before because of pre-existing conditions. Surprise! That's expensive, plus the much larger expansion of government programs (Medicaid and the subsidies for buying private insurance, which are working reasonably well. Objections to the Dr. Q plan are practical, it'll cost a lot of people a lot of money and they'll hate that, plus an increase in negative health outcomes for many. Objections to government financed health care seem based on ideology to me.

 

Wonder how many of the cheerers were on Medicare? Or tax-deductible employer-sponsored health insurance for that matter?

 

Again with the "practical" bit. Your views on the current patched-over cluster-fuck of a regime are as rooted in ideology as anything, because you can't envision any fix or improvement that doesn't involve a larger governmental role. This seems to be a pretty standard tactic among the statists 'round here: Insist that you're only interested in practicality, not ideology, when you're only willing to consider as practical that which conforms to your ideology.

I'll disengage at this point because neither you nor others are willing to even try to think seriously about what I'm suggesting.

 

There is no developed country on earth where government is not deeply involved in health care. That's the reality. One has to assume this is in response to the underlying facts of the case.