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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    It has an emergency escape valve. That's not what the rules say. They can't break the law or forcibly mutiny if he gets the magic number, but they better do everything in their power, by any loophole they can find, to legally deny him the nomination.
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    AgIn, what would that tell their voters? Your votes don't count.
     
  3. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Where is a private company, which both parties are, legally bound to do anything when it comes to picking their leader, which is technically what they do at their private conventions?
     
  4. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    The voters choose freely to belong to a political party because, in theory, working collectively they have more power to advance a core set of policy positions -- a platform. The party develops rules in its nomination process to ensure its liklihood of nominating a candidate who represents those policy positions and to protect against hijacking of the nomination. In this case, Trump is coming dangerously close to hijacking the GOP (mostly because the party's policy positions don't have widespread support among its disparate coalition of members, but that's a different topic) and we'll get to see just how well the party's rules safeguard its right to nominate a candidate who will represent its platform.
     
  5. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    What? There are rules, they are playing by them. Had he received a majority of the votes or delegates, he would have been the nominee, but he didn't. Do you not understand anything other than a straight head count?
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yes. And who cares? Trump's voters are not the future of the Republican Party.

    They are going to have significant political cover when he limps to the finish line, because they'll be able to argue that he amassed his delegates before the race narrowed, and it is clear now that Cruz is actually the people's choice.
     
  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I think I've said this before, but party leaders using rules fiddles to deny Teddy Roosevelt the nomination in 1912 after he'd won a plurality of delegates in primaries is exactly what led to his running on the Bull Moose ticket third party and throwing the election to Woodrow Wilson. So the danger is obvious.
    Dick, by what metric is Cruz the people's choice. Because he led a poll in Wisconsin? That's just a statement without any factual basis to support it.
     
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  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    That was good for a nice morning chuckle ...
     
  9. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    I think if the party has the opportunity to select a candidate it won't be Trump or Cruz. My guess is they will try to annoint an establishment candidate like empty-suit Paul Ryan as the party savior, much like they did with the House speakership. He can articulate to the masses what a great idea it would be to give more tax cuts to the wealthiest people and businesses while stripping away social security (as we enter a full-blown retirement crisis) and Medicare.
     
  10. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    It's a good thing Hillary Clinton is not an empty suit, but is a candidate full of ideas.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    It doesn't matter if anti-abortionists feel pregnancy is a punishment. It's not their body. It matters if the woman feels her pregnancy is a punishment.

    And yes, the circumstances involving conception are relevant. Anti-abortionists frequently use religion as the basis of their beliefs. A child is seen as a gift from their deity. Their religion says that sex is an act of love that glorifies their deity and is for the purpose of procreation. Forced sex, then, isn't an act of love, doesn't glorify their deity, and a pregnancy that is the result is from forced procreation, not voluntary. Unless they want to say that a rape that causes pregnancy was a gift from their deity.

    A woman who is raped may especially see that pregnancy as a punishment, because she did not willingly volunteer to be a part of the procreation.
     
  12. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Cruz didn't say no. He had to hide behind Carly, too.

    The other shoe will drop before the weekend, I'm fairly certain.
     
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