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Trump cheats at golf - the ONE and ONLY politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnarkShark, Jan 22, 2016.

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  1. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Hillary Clinton, the serious liar America needs.
     
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  2. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Admittedly, Trump is a much more gifted liar.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Circumstances cause Presidents to change their minds and repudiate past positions. When running, Lincoln said he had no intention of freeing the slaves and he meant it if it would preserve the Union. FDR promised a balanced budget and reduced spending in 1932 because that was conventional wisdom in both parties, then was forced into drastic actions by the day he was inaugurated. Does that make them liars?
    I'm sure Bush believed every word about WMDs in Iraq. He was wrong, dead wrong, but that's not dishonesty, it's being wrong.
    Republicans have been accusing Hillary of crimes for a quarter-century. The Sanders people call her dishonest because Clinton is an exemplar of an entire system they consider dishonest. If Joe Biden were younger and had run, the Sanders people would accuse him of the same thing.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'd be more than willing to stand in for three pitches against Clayton Kershaw.

    It doesn't make me Mike fucking Trout.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    "Circumstances." LOL.

    Yeah, like the circumstances of the prevailing winds.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Again, not a defense of Trump.

    He gets exposed when he tries to discuss these issues.

    Would still like to see Hillary have a similar discussion with an adversarial questioner.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm sure we'd all quickly find out that she is similarly uninformed as her likely November adversary.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Look, I give Trump credit for taking questions, too, and putting himself out there. But at some point, he shouldn't get a free pass on that anymore. The answers themselves matter. I'm not as concerned about the isolated so-called "gaffes" as I am a very clear, long-term pattern of indications that he has little understanding of issues.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, I'm sure she's more informed on the issue.

    I also think her having to defend her position would be newsworthy and would turn off a percentage of voters.

    But, she knows this, and so do the reporters who play patty cake with her, so we won't see it.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    You would still vote for Trump over her?
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Either Hillary is for abortion with no restrictions at all, or she is for some restrictions.

    Either turns off voters.

    Either position needs to be defended. Even Baron says he's against abortion after the clump of cells reaches viability. Where does Hillary stand, and how does she reach her position?
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Duh.

    I know what I'm getting with Hillary.

    Trump is an unknown, but I'll take my chances with him.
     
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