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We found out about our daughter's issue at about 35 weeks.

If my wife though the stress associated with raising a child within issue would have negatively effected her mental health, then it would be just fine to decide to have an abortion? Would that be good enough to qualify for an exception?

 

Constitutionally?

 

Sure.

But, what does Hillary believe? Where does any Dem stand on these questions?

 

Do you not understand that if Herself is elected, there is unlikely to be any push for change in our current abortion laws? So what's the point of grilling her on it? And I haven't heard the other candidates exactly grilled either. Just Trump, because nobody knows what he believes on ANYTHING. And if you really, really want to know her views, you might not find it in your Twitter feed, but you might be able to find it by other means.

 

Trump's position would have involved every woman wanting an abortion. Your complaint about Hillary would involved, in all probability, very few cases, which is why there isn't as much traction. You are of course, welcome to find any numbers on how many women have abortions for mental health reasons.

 

Well, that depends on how you define "mental health reasons."

Because the answer might be: Pretty much all of them.

 

The term "late-term" isn't quite what it seems here. According to their study, the term is more "later abortion" and the average time that a "later abortion" happened was 22 weeks. "Late-term" usually means in the third trimester. 22 weeks is still in the second trimester.

20-Week Abortion Bans Will Disproportionately Affect Younger, Low-Income Women, Study Finds - National Partnership for Women & Families | Women's Health Policy Report

What we're more debating here is about "late-term" abortions in the third trimester because of a woman's mental health issues. Abortions in the third trimester are already banned, with some exceptions. Some are arguing that mental health issues shouldn't be an exception.

 

I think you're getting ahead of yourself. Some want to know, as a first principle, how mental health issues would be defined.

 

Then certain people should come up with a standard for which mental health reasons are acceptable, and which are not.

Or, to borrow from my example earlier, should a suicide attempt be enough to sufficiently qualify for an abortion due to mental health?

 

Which would be perfectly fair. Except some others believe anybody could just fake a mental illness and get a late-term abortion.

 

True or not, the perception is that Democrats would maintain the (federal) status quo on abortion policy. When's the last time you saw anyone running on a MOAR ABORTIONS platform? Republicans by and large (at least seemingly) want to drastically alter the status quo, so they get asked about it.

Those same Democrats usually get lots of questions about gun control they have to answer, even though it could piss off a sizable chunk of voters (and usually the same ones who are pissed about their abortion views.)

 

The parallel is self-defense in the criminal law.

Homicide is justified in self-defense, which is what the health of the mother exception is, essentially. A self-defense exception.

Is there a self-defense exception, in the regular criminal law, for someone preserving his or her mental health?