Ubaldo Jimenez Detained in AZ As Illegal

Do personal insults accompany all your laughter? Face it, Rush pisses you off, you can't stand it (regardless of how many stupid emoticons you post) and HE is the one laughing about it -- all the way to the bank. Hahahahahahahaha!

 

Lost, as usual, in all the screeching rhetoric from both sides - what can/should the federal government do about illegal immigration? You know, so individual states don't feel like they have to take drastic and perhaps misguided steps to combat the problem themselves.

 

What do you expect from a state which keeps electing a smug, simple tool like Kyl to the Senate?

 

Both sides love it as a political football, but anyone with any
national ambitions knows that -- like abortion -- the subject's
radioactive, and any meaningful legislation will piss a great number
of undecideds off without tangibly aiding your own cause.

I don't like Cal Thomas, but his observations re this issue remain
broadly correct.

 

That's pretty funny coming from a guy who spends much of his time on here making personal insults.

Hey, Rush has himself a pretty good gig going. He's managed to make millions off of people he's duped into believing that a multi-millionaire like himself really gives a rat's ass about them.

And no, to reiterate: Rush doesn't piss me off. He's funny and entertaining ... just not in the way he or his listeners think.

Hope that clears it up for ya!

 

While I enjoy an occasional well-placed fastball, I don't throw insults around too often. I can fuck with you without them.

 

Well, the federal government can make the United States such a shithole that no one will want to come here. Seriously, you can talk all you want about walls and snipers at the border, but people determined to leave lives of poverty south of the border for opportunity to the north are going to do some pretty damned extreme things to get here, no matter what. The recession slowed the flow, but the drug war going on in Mexico has got people fleeing again.

It's worth nothing that there was no such thing as "illegal" immigration until the 1880s, when Chinese were banned, and that movement didn't reach full flower until the early 1920s, when at America's KKK-loving, nativist peak, an act got through Congress (and signed by Coolidge) that limited immigration to percentages based on the current ethnic makeup of the United States (following an emergency quota act), in part because of a larger influx of Asians and swarthy people from undesirable parts of Europe. A lot of that was undone with another major immigration act in 1965, which took out quotas but still limited entry. George H.W. Bush signed another act in 1990 expanding the numbers who could come in. Of course, there have been numerous amnesties.

There also plenty of people who believe that the U.S. would shoot itself in the foot economically if it even closed its borders. The Cato Institute, actually a consistent view considered its libertarian bent, said granting everyone in the country amnesty would be a $180 billion shot-in-the-arm because they would no longer be in the shadows.

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10438

Then there's the example of countries that have extremely restrictive immigration policies. Much has been written about Japan and its depopulation. At current fertility rates, the country's population will drop from 127 million today to 95 million in 2050 -- part of the reason Japan went from looking like it was going to own the world, to now having plenty of their own versions of Youngstown.

 

Require every citizen carry a national card of identification and make it as difficult to counterfeit as possible. Then make it so that that card is a major part of life. (I.E. You have to present it to get a job, to buy a car, to do your taxes, e.t.c).

If you don't have the card, and/or can't produce it, you get investigated.

 

Much easier just to implant microchips.

 

Make sure it includes a GPS beacon so the government knows where you are at all times. Only illegal immigrants, drug traffickers and paranoiacs would object.

 

Exactly. Go for the Full Nazi.

 

Yeah, because it's not like most of us over the age of 16 already carry an ID card ...

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