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Ubaldo Jimenez Detained in AZ As Illegal

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Boom_70, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Doesn't that already happen, Baron?
     
  2. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Again, you don't need the new law to do that.
     
  3. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    And isn't being here illegally just a class 2 misdemeanor? I mean you're not really going to prison or anything they just put you on a bus and send you back. (Right?) The addict buying crack in the alley faces more serious charges.
     
  4. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    They generally hand you over to immigration, if the ICE agents are interested. If ICE takes you they ship you back.
     
  5. fishhack2009

    fishhack2009 Active Member

    The short answer is that this law is completely symbolic. The people who wrote it know damn well that it's going to be found unconstitutional, but for now they have something to point to and say, "See, we tried to do something, but the big bad federal guvmint wouldn't let us."

    I've read some analysis out of Arizona that Brewer signed this law as an attempt to shore up the Tea Party vote in the gubernatorial election. We'll see how that goes, since that clown Sheriff Joe is apparently planning to run against her.
     
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    The guy who wrote the bill isn't nearly that clever. You should hear him recall wistfully how they had a big anti-immigrant push in the 50s called "Operation Wetback."

    As for Brewer, yeah, I think she did probably sign it because she figured her campaign was dead in the water otherwise. She could see the shitstorm coming. The others thought they'd be hailed as national heroes.

    And Sheriff Joe isn't running. He pretends he's going to run every four years, then announces he just feels too much obligation to the people who elected him to consider another office. He made it official this afternoon.
     
  7. Buck

    Buck Well-Known Member


    I can speak for the states of NJ and California and the territory of Guam - the only places in which I have held a driver's license. In none of those places is it required that you carry ID at all times.
    In all three places, a person driving a motor vehicle is required to provide his/her license, registration and proof of insurance upon request by a law-enforcement officer. However, if you are legally licensed and the vehicle is legally registered and insured but you cannot provide proper documentation, you are allowed to show the documentation at court to have the penalty dropped.
    For example, I get pulled over speeding, which happens all the time. I have my license and registration, but I have not put my new insurance card in the truck. I get a speeding ticket and a failure to show proof of insurance ticket. I go to traffic court and present my proof of insurance, and that ticket is waived.
     
  8. Anyone come up with one yet?
     
  9. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    GFP.
     
  10. jlee

    jlee Well-Known Member

    That's how it works in Florida and Alaska, too.

    It's a false comparison with an ID that proves your nationality, though. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but:

    If you don't have a driver's license, you give the issuing officer your name, address and other information that allows them to contact you if you don't pay your ticket. From the license plate number, they at least have a lead to follow if you try to give them the slip.

    In the case of a national ID, an illegal immigrant has no paper trail in this country. The only way to make sure they don't get away is to detain them, which means you either detain them or let them off with a ticket they don't have to pay or a court hearing they don't have to show up for.
     
  11. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    Adrian Gonzalez one of many Hispanic players opposing this piece of legislation.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2010/05/adrian_gonzalez_speaks_out_aga.html

    Bud might be having another interesting All-Star Game controversy next year at Chase Field.
     
  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Want to know how I know it will work? The left hates it.
     
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