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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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    AP photo of Ukrainian man waving goodbye to his wife and 2-year-old at a Kyiv train station yesterday.
     
  3. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    We do. There's no pretense here. If he moves out of Ukraine into NATO, it's game set match. There will be blood.
     
  4. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    Not Ukraine, apparently.
     
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  5. Shelbyville Manhattan

    Shelbyville Manhattan Well-Known Member

    It actually is something of a legend, since the movie actually aired nine days after "Able Archer" concluded, not before. (Although it is possible that Reagan had the film screened for him before it aired on Nov. 20, 1983.)

     
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  6. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

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  7. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Ugh. I wish I was at home and not at my school desk. I need a good ugly cry right now.
     
  8. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    That was good.

    Because I'm sure some will not open the link and read the interview in its entirety, I'm going to copy/paste a section that, frankly, everyone -- everyone in this country and in NATO -- should see.

    Once Biden came in, there was a lot of hope that he’d become involved in the peace process. That he’d really put some pressure on the Kremlin to make progress. By this point, Germany and France weren’t really seen as our partners anymore. Merkel was seen as a Putin understander. I don’t know if that’s fair, but that was the perception.

    But now the US was back, it was going to fight for democracy again, and—well, here we are. We’re literally fighting for democracy. And here was a person in Biden who knew a lot about the country. We had a lot of hopes for that. That he would move the peace process along, that he would help move some of our reforms along.

    But now . . . I listened to the State of the Union yesterday, and Biden said again that the US was not going to fight in Ukraine. It just drives me nuts. We’re fighting. Look at Kharkiv. I mean, thank you for the Javelins, they’re great, but our boys are the ones who have to take them to the front lines. And this America, which is so jacked up and powerful, and has so much technology, is sitting and watching as Ukraine bleeds. How does that feel? Are you comfortable? You’re supposed to be people who battle for values, for freedom. And what are we fighting for? For freedom. You’re the one who have a Statue of Liberty. You’re sitting on your asses. We’re told, “Oh no, there’s going to be a nuclear war, it’s so scary.” But what, you think if you don’t intervene, the nuclear threat will recede? No! It’ll be stronger! Because he’ll swallow us up, and then he’ll be one-on-one with you. So maybe you should stop that danger here? They didn’t stop it in 2008—when he rode his tanks to Tbilisi and back. Nothing happened. Nothing. Do you remember any sanctions from 2008? There weren’t any. They swallowed it. If he’d been hit on the nose for that, 2014 wouldn’t have happened. But then he didn’t really suffer for 2014, either. There were sanctions but the Russians saw that it wasn’t too bad.


    You ask why he invaded. It wasn’t because his friend was arrested—he doesn’t give a shit about Medvedchuk. Putin is provoked by the weakness of the West. He thinks the West is pissing its pants. And he has reason to think that. And Ukraine now thinks so, too.

    Ouch. And completely deserved, in my opinion.

    This is exactly how I've been feeling, and what I've been thinking, all day today.

    But Putin must be stopped, and if we're not going to do anything about a desperately needed no-fly zone, or to provide planes for air coverage to Ukraine, and if we're not going to send any manpower, well, I really hope there is at least some kind of planning/hunting going on for Putin. He needs to be captured or killed, and the U.S. should be making a concerted effort to make that happen.
     
  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  10. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile I watch the news, mainly CNN, and see some images that make me visualize America in the near future when the Q's, and the super nutter XYZ's to the far right of them, decide that they are going to be motivated by Ukrainians and start defending their country against the libtards.

    Photo by The Mirror

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    I mean, it's not that far away.

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  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

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