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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    EU: still meeting and mulling.

    Jesus tapdancing Christ.


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    European Union foreign ministers have been arriving in Brussels for a crucial meeting during which they are expected to approve more sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine.

    The bloc’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, told reporters as he headed into the meeting: “We are not going to stop supporting Ukraine” but he also said it was was becoming harder to keep up the sense of urgency.

    Swedish deputy foreign minister Robert Rydberg said: “Sweden will raise the importance of agreeing a new package of military support for Ukraine. We will also raise the importance of continuing to strengthen the restrictive measures against Russia.”

    Reuters reports Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba will address the 27 EU ministers via video conference later today.

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    The European Union to discuss tightening sanctions against Russia: Proposed measures include a new import ban on Russian gold and export controls on advanced technology, with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen saying Moscow must continue to pay a high price for its aggression.

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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) An import ban on Russian gold would actually have some teeth. Russia was a very aggressive buyer of gold over the last decade +. While it was going on, I figured it was because they saw the fiat currencies -- dollar, euro, yen, yuan -- being so massively devalued over that time that they figured a reset was going to come and whoever held hard assets would be in a good place. But since the invasion of Ukraine, they have used that gold to really good effect to circumvent some of the bite of the U.S. and European sanctions. Europe should have tried to cut off Russian gold sales, in any way possible, long before now if they were serious.

    2) At the end of the day, though, all of the sanctions are relatively meaningless as long as Russia can export natural resources, particularly oil and nat gas. Oil and nat gas are Russia's real currency, not the ruble. And they have buyers for them. They are just as happy to settle in yuan (or rupees) as they are to transact in dollars and euros. In fact, Russia is actively trying to get India, Iran, Egypt and some other emerging markets that are relatively outside our sphere of influence, to work together to remove the dollar and euro from commercial transactions and settle in other currencies. This makes the U.S. and Europe vulnerable, because while we have shit all over the dollar for decades, we have benefitted more than most people understand from being a reserve currency -- given special status, by virtue of nothing we are doing to earn it. And our behavior has made us really vulnerable now, and Russia knows it. If you get major commodities settling in other currencies, it is going to have a major effect on how much we can keep debasing our currency. We have been propped up by the fact that other countries were essentially forced to use our dollars. Take that away and we are standing naked. Regardless, whether Russia (and others) can do any harm to the dollar's reserve currency status or not, as long as Russia has oil and gas to export, and there are large buyers like China and India, sanctions are never going to be some magic elixir to bring Russia to its knees. It's really mostly for show.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

  6. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    The Germans are shitting their pants over the lack of natural gas. Good job allowing your country's energy supply to be taken over by a mob boss.
     
  7. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Where else were they supposed to get their heating supply from, at anything coming close to a comparable cost?

    It's not like they have multiple ways to heat their country, all at comparable costs, and they made a bad choice. LNG from the U.S (or Canada) is way more expensive for Germany. Iran isn't an option.
     
  11. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    They could've invested more in renewables. They could've slow-rolled their reduction in nuclear. They put their eggs in one basket.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yes, they hurt themselves with the shutdown of all of those nuclear power plants, and the utter stupidity surrounding it, but really only 15 percent of the electricity generation in Germany is coming from gas. And that isn't the problem for them. Their problem is that more than half of the households in the country heat with gas. ... and a gas boiler can't run on electricity, whether that electricity is being generated by coal, gas, nuclear or leftover McDonald's fry oil.

    As for renewables. ... the idea that there is some renewable energy alternative that can provide energy reliably at anywhere near the current cost of energy is just magical thinking. There are plenty of people investing in "renewables." A breakthrough would make someone rich. But the technology isn't there.
     
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