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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

  2. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    I’m sure it’s fine.
     
  3. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

  4. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    They’ve been fucking around and finding out for a half a century and more.
     
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  5. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Haven't checked the scorecard in a while.
    Russia is closing in on 2,000 tanks lost, and has surpassed 10,000 vehicles of all types. One source estimated that Russia had about 3,300 operational tanks at the start of the war. They've rolled some antiques out of mothballs to bump that figure up, but figure it's still probably about half of its useful inventory.
    It has lost 82 planes (mostly Su-25 and Su-34 strike aircraft) and 90 helicopters (about two-thirds of those being attack helicopters). Only a few of the downed planes were fighters.
    And, of course, 12 ships while fighting an opponent that does not have a functional navy.
    And that's just the losses that are independently confirmed with visual evidence. There is likely much more that hasn't been seen, found or documented, and doesn't account for the stuff that's parked because of mechanical issues, battle damage and lack of parts.

    Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx

    Ukraine has lost 504 tanks. It has captured 543.
    It has lost about 3,500 vehicles of all types.
    The one big thing it has lost compared to the Russians are fighter planes — 29 fighters out of 66 total planes lost.

    Attack On Europe: Documenting Ukrainian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine - Oryx

    This is just the equipment losses and doesn't tally up the manpower. Seems the current estimates there are about 50,000 killed for the Russians and around 20,000 for the Ukrainians, not counting civilian losses.
     
  6. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    When's the counteroffensive practice?
     
  7. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    For Ukraine, I don’t care about planes lost. I care about pilots. We can send more planes.
     
  8. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Another attack on a civilian medical facility. A trip to hell can’t happen soon enough for Putin.
     
  9. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Two choices. Either UKR has special forces capable of penetrating deep into Russia and launching that attack, or it was run by home grown Russian groups who want to cause fear and discord. Neither is good for Putin.
     
  11. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Or they want to be able to accuse Ukraine of also committing war crimes.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Russia doesn’t allow journalists to independently report on them, nor do they allow protests. They have zero credibility and anything they say should be regarded as false unless independently proven otherwise.

    And even if their claims that Ukraine attacked them are true, well, fuck them. They attacked Ukraine first.
     
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