Unfairly maligned TV shows and movies

One of mine, too. Always been a big fan of Nolte and it really is a smarter movie than people gave it credit for being. The exception to that being the portrayal of the media.

 

The Blue Chips script floated around for a long, long time before it finally got made, I think that's part of the reason there was some stuff that wasn't realistic at all. Ed O'Neal blowing his huge scoop at a post game presser was one. Also the coaches sitting down and basically going "hey, the season's over I guess we better figure out who we want to recruit for next year."

 

This is what leads to threads like this.

People get worked up because others look at a certain show, such as "Scandal," completely trash it, and it sounds like that's the definitive word on the subject.

To me, "Scandal" is one of the better television shows of the past few years. I know many people who feel that way. That's not to say LTL is wrong. It's to say that it's his opinion. A lot of people on this board make compelling written arguments for their livelihood, and it leads to their opinions sounding like fact.

Two other ABC shows, the related "Grey's Anatomy" and "Private Practice." It isn't Shakespeare. It is interesting night-time soap opera, with some very interesting story lines.

 

LongTimeListener is saying he watches the show every week.

 

And yet, he says it's ridiculous. That's too broad a definition of "ridiculous" to me.

I mean, I can't think of another show right now where my wife and I talk about the possibilities and what happened more than "Scandal."

 

I hated the finale when I watched it. But over time, I've realized that it was the perfect way to end the show.

 

I liked every single one of those shows in the first few seasons ... except Bob's Burgers. Didn't like it from day one.

Now all of those shows have grown old and tired, at least to me. In fact, I made a few bucks selling all the Family Guy sets I used to own to a video shop last week. Six bucks a set, $48 total. I hadn't even opened the set I got last Christmas.

 

You should watch Homeland.

I apologize. I should have said, "In my opinion, Scandal is ridiculous." That way nobody would have erroneously accepted my word as fact.

 

How dare LTL use his word sorcery to trick me like that!

As for the Seinfeld finale, what most people remember is the last scene, where they're sent off to prison. I actually don't have Any issue with that. I think it's a funny final coda to the show. The trial, though, which makes up a bulk of the final half hour, is just lazy. Bringing back everyone should have been hilarious, but the humor is missing -- just as it was the entire 9th season. That show limped home.

 

I thought the Seinfeld finale deserved any maligning it received. The whole show, I thought, lost much of its fun after killing off Susan. That episode runs a very close second in the ickiness department to the Roseanne episode that had Debbie Reynolds playing Dan's mother as someone with very uncontrolled bipolar. I just can't understand all the guffaws given to the Susan episode. I understand that Larry David's humor style is on the edge, and that worked on Seinfeld because of the charisma of the lead character to leaven it. But in the Susan episode, "on the edge" became "over the cliff."

 

M. Night Shamalamadingdong and his simple-minded laughably-predictable cliche plot-twist bullshit cannot be "unfairly" maligned.

Ditto for "Forest Gump" and the message that it's good to be a moron. It's not.


GF III IS unfairly maligned. No, it doesn't stand up to the first two, but they were both among the 10 best English-language films ever made.

And the idea that Winona Ryder (!?!) -- WINONA FUCKING RYDER -- would have saved it is preposterous. What other failing movies has the esteemed Ms. Ryder saved on the sheer power of her thespian talents in the last 25 years?

GF III was sunk in terms of potential greatness when Tom Hagen was written out. The conflict between Michael Corleone and Tom Hagen was supposed to be what GF III was going to be all about.

 

Actually, season five was every bit as bad as everyone said it was. Just horrid. But season six got better, and season seven is actually nearly as good as the Sorkin seasons.

But I still shudder when I think about season five.